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SomethingClever

05-25-2005, 12:23 AM

Ok, it's been 10k hands and I'm still down a minor amount. I've had a 20k run of essentially breakeven poker before, so I know it's not the end of the world. But I feel like I suck.

Here are a bunch of hands. I know it's more than I should put in one post, but oh well. If anyone wants to look them over I appreciate it.

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Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.70 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.70 BB

Hand 4

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.20 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

Hand 5 I really hate this one.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (3 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Hand 6

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

Hand 7

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Hand 8

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB

Hand 9

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP folds, Button bets, SB folds, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (8 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

casinogosain

05-25-2005, 02:24 PM

Here are my thoughts, useless as they may be:

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Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

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I would generally fold this preflop from UTG. Given that you didn't, I prefer a check-raise on the turn, folding to a three-bet. Finally, I would have folded to the river raise. Given how passively you played it, and your desire to get to showdown, why not check/call the river even with the possibility that it gets checked through?

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Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.70 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

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Looks fine to me. I assume you led the flop anticipating the button raise to drive out the BB?

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Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.70 BB

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I am torn here. I tend to discredit the preflop 3-bet by CO given his open limp. The dynamics of the situation may have come into play in this one - had you been liberally raising your button with limper(s) in front of you? While I have a hard time convincing myself to cap this preflop, I have noticed other (winning) players doing this. Beyond that, I've noticed that you are playing a lot of these hands fairly passively post-flop. Perhaps a raise on the turn to see where you stand?

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Hand 4

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.20 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

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Looks good.

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Hand 5 I really hate this one.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (3 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 5 BB

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Me too. Nothing to be done.

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Hand 6

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

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Check-raise flop, lead turn. Or Check-call flop, lead turn.

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Hand 7

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

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Another hand in which you lead the river and call the raise. Again, I would try to define things better on the turn.

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Hand 8

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB

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Looks good.

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Hand 9

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP folds, Button bets, SB folds, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (8 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

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Lead the flop. Aside from that, looks fine. I love the free-fold:

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Flop: (8 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP folds, Button bets, SB folds, Hero raises, Button calls.

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Overall I think that you are too determined to get to showdown without defining your opponents hands. I may be way off.

-Ash

SomethingClever

05-25-2005, 02:36 PM

Thanks for your comments.

Couple things. I am trying to get to showdown more, as my wtsd is only like 31. At other shorthanded levels, it's more like 34 or 35.

These are also somewhat unusual hands; I am not a passive player. My aggression stats are approximately 2.9, 2.9, 1.8.

Hand 6 is either a misclick or converter error. I don't normally defend my SB with K9o like that.