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MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:01 AM
My image is tight aggressive. I have played with villain before, and he has not seemed like a very good player. By now, he should know how aggressive I am.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($28.8)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($83)</font>
MP1 ($60.11)
MP2 ($45.2)
MP3 ($65.3)
CO ($58)
Button ($61.1)
SB ($42.9)
BB ($30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.25) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($2.25) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, MP2 folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($14.25) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $22.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $1.30.

Final Pot: $58.85

Malachii
05-25-2005, 12:02 AM
You lost?

The only thing I can think of that would have you beat is a missed limp/reraise with pocket aces.

MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:07 AM
I will say the results after I get a couple of replies. I just want to know what people would have done in this situation. Did I play all streets correctly?

cl_tc
05-25-2005, 12:11 AM
I don't see how I could get away from this either...

Depending on what I've seen him do, I may re-raise on the turn too, to possibly get all the money in then.

Did he turn over TT?

Sephus
05-25-2005, 12:13 AM
i reraise the turn.

Sephus
05-25-2005, 12:14 AM
my guess is AA or QQ. i highly doubt TT and i doubt KJ even more.

MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:16 AM
I didnt want to say the results so early because I thought it might affect the comments. Anyway, he turned over AA. So if you comment on this hand, try not to let the results affect your answer. I really want to know if anyone does anything different, or was I just destined to double him up.

swolfe
05-25-2005, 12:16 AM
push the turn

MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:18 AM
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my guess is AA or QQ. i highly doubt TT and i doubt KJ even more.

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Is this because you know I probably lost the hand, or would you have put him on this before showdown?

Sephus
05-25-2005, 12:19 AM
heh it's because i knew you lost the hand. if i just saw the HH i'd say there's a 95% chance you were the winner.

MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:24 AM
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push the turn

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Why? If he is bluffing, he may fire again on the river. If he has 2 pair he might fold, and am I that afraid of him drawing out on me? If I just call here, he is pot committed no matter what with 2 pair. I do not see what pushing the turn does.

steviej1717
05-25-2005, 12:25 AM
I would re-re-raise the turn. This seems like a classic case of a slowplayed set of 5's. UTG was hoping hero or MP2 would bet their ace and get more money in the pot. After he raises to 6, it's hard to see what is beating us here that wouldn't have raised preflop. I would be tempted to raise to about $15 and get him pot-committed.

Sephus
05-25-2005, 12:30 AM
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push the turn

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Why? If he is bluffing, he may fire again on the river. If he has 2 pair he might fold, and am I that afraid of him drawing out on me? If I just call here, he is pot committed no matter what with 2 pair. I do not see what pushing the turn does.

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he isn't committed with 2 pair (pot is only $15), esp. if he doesn't like the river. he minreraised you so he didnt want you to fold so you don't need to worry about letting him improve to get his money in.

MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:33 AM
You guys think re-reraising 2 pair will get more money than simply calling? Explain.

MarzH05
05-25-2005, 12:39 AM
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push the turn

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Why? If he is bluffing, he may fire again on the river. If he has 2 pair he might fold, and am I that afraid of him drawing out on me? If I just call here, he is pot committed no matter what with 2 pair. I do not see what pushing the turn does.

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he isn't committed with 2 pair (pot is only $15), esp. if he doesn't like the river. he minreraised you so he didnt want you to fold so you don't need to worry about letting him improve to get his money in.

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That makes sense. He didnt seem like too much of a maniac, so I guess a push here would have been best. Against the normal crazy player, do you agree that hes not getting away from this? Or should I have pushed turn on any type of player?

JaBlue
05-25-2005, 07:19 AM
fold for the last raise on the river

BlackRain
05-25-2005, 08:03 AM
I don't see much wrong with your play here. I think most people go broke here. Hard to put someone on a higher set here when they limp, even if from UTG. I would have him on AQ and expect to win.

Tim H
05-25-2005, 09:27 AM
put him in on the turn when you are most likely ahead

let me guess .... you lost to the KJ str8

subzero
05-25-2005, 09:42 AM
When he reraises the turn, I push. I expect him to call and show 55 or aces up. I'm sure you took down this pot.

BlackRain
05-25-2005, 11:21 AM
He lost to AA, see page one.

subzero
05-25-2005, 11:29 AM
I guess he was trying to limp reraise? Aces don't come around that often. I think I'd have open for 3xBB UTG. I wonder what he would have done if he didn't spike a set.