out of position w/ AJo

[joseki]

CO is 16/10/2, but hasn't been at the table very long.
BB is 58/3.4/.6.

Did I miss a good semi-bluffing opportunity anywhere?

How do you play the river?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

[JrJordan]

With a double belly buster, runner runner flush, and maybe a clean overcard A, I think there's value to a c/r on the flop. It might buy you a free card on the turn as well if CO doesn't have anything. The river call is fine here as well.

[Derek in NYC]

It wont get you a free card as you are OOP.

[obsidian]

The c/r is for value, not a free card. The hero has a ton of outs here.

[Chobohoya]

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It wont get you a free card as you are OOP.

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Unless you go for a lot of trifectas.

[Derek in NYC]

My comment about the c/r not getting the free card was in response to the poster who suggested that it could be used to buy a free card.

In terms of c/r for value, a few points. First, the draw isn't that strong, and given the preflop 3-bet behind him, he doesnt have as many outs as you might think.

Second, in general I think it is pretty rare to be able to c/r for value on a draw. I'm not saying you can't do it, but the stars have to be pretty well aligned, like a 4-way pot, the nut flush draw, plus overcards.

[obsidian]

Oh, it is most certainly a marginal c/r for value. But I still think the hero has 10 outs on average. 7 for the straight, 1.5 for the flush, and maybe 1.5 for the overcard. I guess the 9 outs could be somewhat tainted though.

[Derek in NYC]

I think Ed Miller overvalues backdoor str8s and flushes. The problem is that often the cards that set up a redraw for you (such as the T /images/graemlins/spade.gif in this example), could have you drawing dead. In a not-insignificant number of situations, your counting on a redraw will either have you drawing dead on the turn, or will have simultaneously created another redraw for a villain who can beat you on the river.