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Sadico
05-24-2005, 02:38 PM
I have a doubt about this kind of hand
should I fold this preflop?
should I fold the river with only 1 pair?

I believe villain is tight

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (12.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB
Dunno
05-24-2005, 02:44 PM
raise is good and call the 3bet.
I would lead out on the flop here and just call if he raises.
The turn is good and so are the river.

The only thing i would have done diffrent is leading out on the flop. Nice hand

GL // Dunno
Sadico
05-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Ive just had a similar hand, but this time I had Q10o
I raised from CO, button 3-bet and I call, but folded the flop unimproved
is a hand like Q10o worth call a 3bet preflop?
it seems it has too little chance to beat a 3-bet
billyjex
05-24-2005, 03:08 PM
never raise from the CO pf and then fold to a 3-bet. never.

sometimes on this hand i might bet the flop looking for villian to raise, force out sb, and then 3-bet him. maybe c/r flop, maybe play it the same way you did. it depends.
Dunno
05-24-2005, 03:12 PM
Never fold preflop for just one more bet if u already have one or 2 in there its always worth the call (almost /images/graemlins/wink.gif)
beachbum
05-24-2005, 04:21 PM
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sometimes on this hand i might bet the flop looking for villian to raise, force out sb, and then 3-bet him. maybe c/r flop, maybe play it the same way you did. it depends.

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I'll bet this flop almost everytime to force the blind to call 2 bets cold.
Derek in NYC
05-24-2005, 05:09 PM
Why is nobody criticizing the preflop play?
jogumon
05-24-2005, 07:01 PM
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Why is nobody criticizing the preflop play?

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Because it's correct.
Derek in NYC
05-24-2005, 07:03 PM
Really, is it standard to raise Q9s from UTG? I cant believe this is right, but I'm happy to be told that I'm wrong.

I found this thread discussing Q9s from UTG. Discuss. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=headsup&amp;Number=1695674&amp;For um=f8&amp;Words=q9s&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Main=1693471 &amp;Search=true&amp;where=sub&amp;Name=&amp;daterange=1&amp;newerval= 1&amp;newertype=y&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyprev=#Post1 695674)
Entity
05-24-2005, 07:06 PM
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Really, is it standard to raise Q9s from UTG? I cant believe this is right, but I'm happy to be told that I'm wrong.

I found this thread discussing Q9s from UTG. Discuss. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=headsup&amp;Number=1695674&amp;For um=f8&amp;Words=q9s&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Main=1693471 &amp;Search=true&amp;where=sub&amp;Name=&amp;daterange=1&amp;newerval= 1&amp;newertype=y&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyprev=#Post1 695674)

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4-handed.
Derek in NYC
05-24-2005, 07:09 PM
Thanks, missed that. I agree with the preflop play.
Surfbullet
05-24-2005, 08:28 PM
preflop is fine, it's 4 handed so you should be lowering your raising standards appropriately.

I checkraise this type of flop frequently since the preflop 3better will autobet when checked to, regardless of his holding.

The turn bet is good, given the flop call, because many overcard hands will check through the turn, while overpair hands will raise allowing you to 3bet.

River is standard.

Surf