Should I give it up?

[WVMountainSnake]

Those online sit'n'go tournaments haven't been the best to me. When I first starting playing online I thought that the single table tournaments would be where I would make my money because I had much more experience with them then any other form of poke. About a year ago I started playing $10 NL live tournaments and really enjoyed them. I still play live STTs several times a week. When I log all of my live tournament play, then compare it to online tournament play, there is a huge gap. For some reason I can't beat the STT online. Never. It amazes me. I've never won one.

Online poker in general tends to frustrate me, but I really need my poker fix, so I'm stuck, right? Well, on a whim I entered my first MTT thinking I would finish 200 and laughat my silly decision. Actually, I made it through the first hour. I was stunned. Then, even more startling, I made it into the money. Then I made the final table. No, I didn't win, but I did finish 4th and extremely happy. However, I figured it was just a fluke, but I found a great rush playing the MTTs, so I played another. The next one I played I busted out very early. Bad beat. Oh, well. I decided to continue playing them. I've only played in six of them but I have finished in the money in two and 43rd in another one (top 40 paid).

I still can't beat an online STT for the life of me. Here is the problem: I often don't have the time allotted to play a MTT and go for the sit'n'go. This is a horrible decision as it's only time consuming, frustrating, and costly. But like an abused spouse I keep going back and back only to lose and feel as though I want to tear my hair out.

What are the main differences between a live STT and an online one, and why is it possible to consistently win at one while fail horribly at another? Should I just become a MTT specialist, and what is the difference between a STT online and a MTT online (other than more players)? Should I just give up STT for good? Please let me know if you need any further information to help out. Thanks.

[ZebraAss]

Whiniest post, ever.

#1. I am glad you are good at live SNG's; Only correlation between the two is that the players are trying to get all the chips.

#2. Read about SNG strategy, you don't know what to do in each situation(these people here will tell you)

#3. Good Luck(No, dont give up)

#4. Stop being so whiney


...you all can add to the list if you want.

[lastchance]

Do you fold 95% of hands L1-L3? This is where most of my equity in online SNGs come from, with people playing KQ and AJ losing all their chips with top pair good kicker. There are only 15 good hands in the game, AA-22 (for set value, at least TT-22), AK-AQ at this stage. Are you playing with cash-game starting hands?

Once L4 comes around, do you go into push/fold mode, looking to pick up t150 in blinds whenever you can? Are you playing bubble and ITM poker? Are you raising 1-2 hands per every BB you have to post?

And if you can't do that, move to PokerStars or UB. The bigger stacks mean more room for actual play as compared to weak-tight straight to maniac aggressiveness at Party.

[Blarg]

If you've never won a STT online, well, how many have you played?

I went through quite a number of SNG's when I first started out(just last month) without hitting first, because I didn't realize the centrality of stealing in SNG's forces you to not just outplay people, but outsteal them, and be both the aggressor and make a defense with far less than ideal hands. I never, ever, ever won heads-up, because I kept waiting for the situations to do it with instead of making them myself.

Have you read this forum thoroughly for a while? Doing so should at least make you a break-even player or an extremely moderate low level winner after a while. The type of early tightness and mid- and late-game aggressiveness preached here should do at least that much and get you a bunch of seconds and thirds.

But firsts are worth far more, so you probably need to post some more hands about heads-up situations, and read and ask questions more about heads-up play. I think anyone of even very ordinary intelligence should be able to get at least a 10% ROI at the lower level SNG's after a while, with a little study. If you haven't perused a thread by a poster called "the shadow," which does a great job of rounding up instructive posts on SNGs, find that thread and bookmark it ASAP, and start studying. If you're so much as smart enough to find this forum in the first place, you're smart enough to learn how to get more first places in low level SNG's.

[WVMountainSnake]

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Whiniest post, ever.

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As if anyone can even know that, Napolean.

[NYCNative]

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As if anyone can even know that, Napolean.

[/ QUOTE ]That's true. You do have several other posts in this forum. They should be examined thoroughly...