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Degen
05-23-2005, 09:11 PM
I usually check this...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 (t580)
CO (t970)
Button (t1240)
SB (t1570)
Hero (t570)
UTG (t680)
UTG+1 (t715)
MP1 (t575)
MP2 (t1100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t50, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t570 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, Button folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: t720

curtains
05-23-2005, 09:13 PM
Well PVS helped you out then, because checking is very wrong.

Degen
05-23-2005, 09:20 PM
eh?

Wow, second time this week somebody has said to raise this out of the blinds...

You usually raise AK out of the blinds? I thought that was reserved for AA, KK and maybe QQ...please elaborate, somebody...


I was referring to PVS's thread on lvl 3 being the 'sweet spot' and taking down limped pots before the flop. Here i picked up t250 or so.


Andre

The Yugoslavian
05-23-2005, 10:33 PM
This isn't really a PVS...it's like....ridiculously standard.

Maybe if you were the SB here with like KTo it would be a PVS...

Yugoslav

J-Lo
05-23-2005, 10:56 PM
You didnt have enough chips to play poker if u raised, that's why a push is standard. At the earlier levels 1/2 u check and fold unless u flop monster. If u had 900 chips then most people advise checking. But with only 600 chips, pick up those free chips.

Phil Van Sexton
05-23-2005, 11:34 PM
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This isn't really a PVS...it's like....ridiculously standard.

Maybe if you were the SB here with like KTo it would be a PVS...

Yugoslav

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Baby steps, Yugo. You have to work your way up to hands like this (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2261572&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;s b=5&amp;o=&amp;vc=1).

curtains
05-23-2005, 11:35 PM
Cmon Degen, there are 200 chips in the pot, you have 550 total!!!! Anything but moving allin is ridiculous.

The Yugoslavian
05-23-2005, 11:44 PM
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This isn't really a PVS...it's like....ridiculously standard.

Maybe if you were the SB here with like KTo it would be a PVS...

Yugoslav

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Baby steps, Yugo. You have to work your way up to hands like this (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2261572&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;s b=5&amp;o=&amp;vc=1).

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Well....yes, the master can play like that, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

I don't want Degen to go completely broke attempting high level PVS...then he'd *never* be able to pay Irie back /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Yugoslav

Mr_J
05-24-2005, 12:11 AM
/images/graemlins/grin.gif yeh. 2OO in pot and you have 570 and AK. A PVS needs cards where you will be unhappy to be called?

Blarg
05-24-2005, 12:21 AM
Oh man, like we didn't have enough jargon already...

Degen
05-24-2005, 06:33 PM
haha nh sir

don't think i'll be trying that anytime soon, maybe next time i'll do it with ducks or something.


Andre

Phoenix1010
05-24-2005, 06:44 PM
Well everyone has said this is standard so I won't repeat it. I'll say you should be pushing all pairs and AT-AQ as well. I push even wider than that. Also with the same stacks I'd push AK on level 2 as well if there's one or two more limps, but not many others seem to make that play. In my set, pushing trash from the BB is called "pulling a Steve," but PVS has more ring to it. Pushing AK in that situation is called "SOP."

-Phoenix