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brazilio
05-23-2005, 08:18 PM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

My hand sucks so [censored] much, should I just dump this pronto? It was 10-handed when I selected to post, somebody left right before the hand started.
brettbrettr
05-23-2005, 08:21 PM
Ha, yeah, I think you could justifiably fold that. I remember reading a Tommy Angelo story where he steal-raised, Ray Zee in the SB 3 bets, Tommy folds. He had 22.
Nick C
05-23-2005, 08:23 PM
I'd go ahead and take a look at the flop.

I wouldn't be very happy, though.
toss
05-23-2005, 08:23 PM
I'd like to see that game.
WillMagic
05-23-2005, 08:28 PM
NO.

I'm sorry, you don't pass up any hand getting 6-1 in position preflop.

Will
aK13
05-23-2005, 08:28 PM
I think you need to fold to the 3bet, but I'd probably pay for a flop here as well.
brettbrettr
05-23-2005, 08:30 PM
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I think you need to fold to the 3bet, but I'd probably pay for a flop here as well.

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No, you don't *need* to fold. You *need* to call. However I think folding is acceptable.

Note, if you folded, I wouldn't fault you for finding another table.
brazilio
05-23-2005, 08:31 PM
That means you should be limping in the button with any two cards after 5 players have limped, which is clearly false. And 2/4 being passive and all, that SB 3-bet means I'm behind quite a bit more than I would be with limping this on the button after 5. I'm not really arguing one way or the other, though.
brettbrettr
05-23-2005, 08:33 PM
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That means you should be limping in the button with any two cards after 5 players have limped, which is clearly false. And 2/4 being passive and all, that SB 3-bet means I'm behind quite a bit more than I would be with limping this on the button after 5. I'm not really arguing one way or the other, though.

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I think this is a case where having money in the pot makes the call obligatory. In your example you simply don't have to play.
WillMagic
05-23-2005, 08:34 PM
YOU ARE HEADS UP.

Will
brettbrettr
05-23-2005, 08:37 PM
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YOU ARE HEADS UP.



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YOU ARE DRUNK.
bakku
05-23-2005, 08:40 PM
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That means you should be limping in the button with any two cards after 5 players have limped, which is clearly false. And 2/4 being passive and all, that SB 3-bet means I'm behind quite a bit more than I would be with limping this on the button after 5. I'm not really arguing one way or the other, though.

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83o HU is a lot different than 83o 7-8 ways
WillMagic
05-23-2005, 08:43 PM
That doesn't change the fact that I am right.

Will
27offsooot
05-23-2005, 08:46 PM
I would see a flop.
Klepton
05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
by raising here, you were already committing yourself to seeing a flop

this is played fine.
Harv72b
05-24-2005, 01:01 AM
Nice hand.

OTOH, how cool would you look if you called the flop bet &amp; caught the runner runner straight to beat his aces?