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PokerSparky
05-22-2005, 09:59 PM
Everything seemed standard here, but I wanted to get some input and see if there was a possible better line. I was thinking that checking the river might be better here.

Button is 24/14.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB
SteveL91
05-22-2005, 10:06 PM
I like your flop and turn play; though, I'm not really sure what worse hand will call you on the river. I may be inclined to c/c. I'm not sure about pre-flop, but I think implied odds make up for the few small bet deficit.
PokerSparky
05-22-2005, 10:12 PM
Yeah, the more I think about it, the river bet was very bad. No worse hands call, maybe AK, but I doubt it.

C/C on the river is the best play.
MDO67
05-22-2005, 10:12 PM
I may be a wimp, but I think that I fold this hand pre-flop. There are too many pp higher than 7 and at least one of the other players probably has you beat.
SteveL91
05-22-2005, 10:14 PM
I think if the BB doesn't call, I'd be comfortable folding. Since he does, I think it can go either way, though I'd lean towards playing just because in most cases, it's pretty easy to get away from. Hopefully there will be more input on this as I'm curious myself.
Shillx
05-22-2005, 10:30 PM
Perfect. Nice hand.

Brad
PokerSparky
05-22-2005, 10:35 PM
You don't think a c/c on the river is better?
Shillx
05-22-2005, 10:39 PM
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You don't think a c/c on the river is better?

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Well maybe. If you aren't betting because...

A) You don't think A-high will call - Yes I agree with you
B) Because you are scared - No, man up and bet

Brad
TomBrooks
05-22-2005, 11:28 PM
I'm not too crazy about the preflop call, but maybe ya because the CO could be on a blind steal and the Button might be trying to isolate him with just a calling hand.
Walker
05-22-2005, 11:30 PM
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...it's pretty easy to get away from.

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So, if button or CO re-raises the flop we check fold the turn UI?
What if both CO and button see the turn and a club falls?
istewart
05-22-2005, 11:36 PM
Preflop is super easy, the implied odds more than make up for it.
MrWookie47
05-22-2005, 11:41 PM
I think I'm betting the river here. I can't put villain on a hand that would play this way other than A high. If he's really that much of a puss with JJ or something, so be it.
SteveL91
05-22-2005, 11:45 PM
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...it's pretty easy to get away from.

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So, if button or CO re-raises the flop we check fold the turn UI?

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With the flush and straight re-draws, yea, I'd definitely see the turn.

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What if both CO and button see the turn and a club falls?

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This is an exception. I'd probably see the river for one, but maybe not two depending on pot size, especially if it's the 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif or 5 /images/graemlins/club.gif.
PokerSparky
05-23-2005, 12:08 AM
Villain was a huge puss.

He showed AA.
@bsolute_luck
05-23-2005, 08:40 AM
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Perfect. Nice hand.

Brad

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tad confused...why is the c/r good? why not bet out?
Quercus
05-23-2005, 09:00 AM
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tad confused...why is the c/r good? why not bet out?

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Hero has a marginal made hand that is vulnerable to just about every card in the deck (if he's not already way behind.) Pushing out CO increases his chance of taking down this large pot. A single bet into a 12.5SB pot is less likely to do that than a double bet.