Is he a lost cause???

[Talk2BigSteve]

I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

Well anyway we get dress up and go to lunch at the casino, at Phllip M's and we both ordered a Filet Mignon and Lobster, with appitizer, salad, desert, and a bottle of wine, lunch came to $317.

I have been around the world to different places so I guess my version of etiquette is different than someone raised in Mississippi. He does not have alot to talk about and when he does it is not always appropriate conversation for a resturant of the caliber.

But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon. I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that?

So I ask you....

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[PokerFink]

Your standards are very, very high if putting A1 on a nice filet is a deal breaker.

That is a crime punishable by a slap upside the head, but denying him a second date because of it seems harsh.

[jakethebake]

I'm assuming you rightfully beat him to death with the A1 bottle so after that, yes, he's a lost cause.

[Rushmore]

Steve, I have never been out on a date with a person who ordered a steak (I date women), but I must say that if I were to find myself in that same situation, I think I would turn the table over and storm out.

Yes, lost cause.

[Talk2BigSteve]

I guess you are right he is the sweetest guy, I guess I will have to start the gay version of Miss Congeniality to start the grooming and etiquette process.

Baby Steps! Baby Steps!

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[SpearsBritney]

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Your standards are very, very high if putting A1 on a nice filet is a deal breaker.

That is a crime punishable by a slap upside the head, but denying him a second date because of it seems harsh.

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It's not the crime itself, I don't think. It's probably more to do with what his lack of culinary etiquite implies.

[partygirluk]

wtf, no one has said "stick it in his pooper" yet?

[Klepton]

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wtf, no one has said "stick it in his pooper" yet?

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we're trying to change OOT in the same way big steve is changing his man.

[wacki]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

[tbach24]

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Filet Mignon and Lobster

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Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[miajag81]

I'm can't really speak to whether I would date a guy/girl who did this, but I would be pretty appalled if one of my man-friends did it.

[Rushmore]

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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I am far from politically correct, diplomatic, or even reasonable, but this response is off base.

Steve's question was about whether a matter of epicurian incorrectness can offset the positive aspects of a potential partner. It has nothing to do with being gay.

Along similar lines, I once broke up with a girl who thought Monty Python was "just really dumb," and "didn't make any sense."

[Talk2BigSteve]

How do you bring up the subject of etiquette without offending him.

Before today the fanciest resturant he had ever been it was an Outback Steakhouse. I don't want him to think he is a lost cause. He really is shy and emotional, his parents are good God Fearing Queer Haters, and it is very hard for him to open up to who he is in public. He has potential and I am a sucker for the bad boy attitude. Here is a Picture of David.
http://www.geocities.com/talk2bigsteve/David2.jpg

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[miajag81]

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Along similar lines, I once broke up with a girl who thought Monty Python was "just really dumb," and "didn't make any sense."

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Nice, I once broke up with a girl because she felt the same way about Family Guy. Well, not solely because of that, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[TStoneMBD]

$317 for a first date lunch??? if the other guy picked up the check let him stick it in your pooper. if you picked up the check then stick it in his pooper but dont let him get anywhere near yours, he doesnt deserve it.

[miajag81]

I hope his parents aren't 2+2ers

[jakethebake]

ummmm....put it in his pooper? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[tbach24]

Just introduce him to better tastes. Is there a better thing to put on steaks? I don't know, I hate steak.

[Talk2BigSteve]

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I hope his parents aren't 2+2ers

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LOL

No, gambling is the DEVIL!!!(in there eyes)

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[mostsmooth]

ok, so whats the quality limit where A1 sauce is no longer acceptable?
what if the person likes A1 sauce?
whats wrong with A1 sauce anyway?

[TStoneMBD]

this is usually my opening line when approaching chicks, "do you watch family guy?" if she doesnt answer the question correctly then i fart in her pockabook and leave.

[James282]

Lol Rushmore. I once stopped hooking up with a girl largely because she didn't laugh at all when Triumph from the Conan show goes and insults are those Star Wars nerds. Just couldn't stand for that [censored].
-James

[Sponger15SB]

I will put A1 on most steaks, unless they are over like $40 and then I'll use whatever sauce comes with the meal.

This guy might just not know that the nicer the steak, the better it is to just enjoy the flavor of the steak. You should have clued him in.

PS My mouth is watering thinking of your steak.... wait...what?

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[jakethebake]

If the steak is edible, it's too good for A1.

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ok, so whats the quality limit where A1 sauce is no longer acceptable?
what if the person likes A1 sauce?
whats wrong with A1 sauce anyway?

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[Talk2BigSteve]

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PS My mouth is watering thinking of your steak.... wait...what?


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Funniest thing I have read all damn day!!!

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[miajag81]

I think it's OK if they just don't watch it, but it's quite different to watch it with me one night and do nothing but complain about how stupid it is the whole time.

[jakethebake]

I was ready to kill you after the first line fo this post. The ending was pretty good though. Would you put A1 on Steve's meat?

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I will put A1 on most steaks, unless they are over like $40 and then I'll use whatever sauce comes with the meal.

This guy might just not know that the nicer the steak, the better it is to just enjoy the flavor of the steak. You should have clued him in.

PS My mouth is watering thinking of your steak.... wait...what?

Big Andy /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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[Talk2BigSteve]

Thank you Sponger for helping me become an old hand with that last post.

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[Clarkmeister]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

[SpearsBritney]

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Lol Rushmore. I once stopped hooking up with a girl largely because she didn't laugh at all when Triumph from the Conan show goes and insults are those Star Wars nerds. Just couldn't stand for that [censored].
-James

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My ex felt the same way. I don't get. It's hilarious, even to nerds!

[partygirluk]

Wow, he is hot. Sounds like this isn't his fault - just a different upbringing. See whether he changes and try to accomadate his preferences.

[Sponger15SB]

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If the steak is edible, it's too good for A1.

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I totally disagree.

Most of the time, I think a tiny bit of A1 will go good with a steak, or at least some Ajeu (??) sauce.

[Talk2BigSteve]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

[/ QUOTE ]

So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Yeah I gues I will get more responses if it went like this....

I when to lunch today with a mammal. He/She/It put A1 Steak Sauce on His/Her/Its Filet Mignon.

Is that better /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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[KDawgCometh]

I have nothing much to say other than I can't believe that you forked out ~$300 on a lunch date and didn't get any. Now that's criminal

[jakethebake]

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If the steak is edible, it's too good for A1.

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I totally disagree. Most of the time, I think a tiny bit of A1 will go good with a steak, or at least some Ajeu (??) sauce.

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I'll just attribute this to your poor upbringing.

[Talk2BigSteve]

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I have nothing much to say other than I can't believe that you forked out ~$300 on a lunch date and didn't get any. Now that's criminal

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In the words of Curly from City Slickers....

Day ain't over yet!

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[GuyOnTilt]

I went out to a nice steakhouse with a girl a few weeks ago and she ordered a filet medium-well. I have not gone out with her since.

I hate having to put sauce on my steak, but occassionally it's necessary, though when I do it's a good indication that I won't be going back to that particular restaurant. I've never had to for a filet at any steakhouse I've gone to, but occassional a New York won't be prepared well and I'll have to ask for Lea & Perrins. A1 on a filet would be a huge turnoff for me though. A1 on any steak I guess. I really, really appreciate it when a girl knows/appreciates good food.

GoT

[SpearsBritney]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

[/ QUOTE ]

So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

[poker-penguin]

Steve, if you subsituted "girl" for "guy" (and posted under another account, otherwise people would see through the deception) I'd guess the answers would be a lot different.

If your lunch partner is a hottie, and you're hoping to get some, then most guys, however much they love steak, will pretend nothing happened.

I've put up with stunning ignorance (and even racial prejudice that I'm still ashamed I didn't storm out on) from hot girls.

You should save up this sort of petty BS for a month or two down the track when you want makeup sex.

In summary, stick.... your objections in a mental file and in a couple of weeks, decide if he really fits into your life, or if he's just eye candy / a good root.

If you have the chance to get laid by a hottie, you put your unimportant principles aside. Unless you're some sort of gay player, with dozens of hotties lining up for you, in which, case, kick him to the kerb.

[Clarkmeister]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

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If I took a chick on a $300-400 dinner date and she put A1 on her filet I would wonder wtf was wrong with my judgement that I somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

[GuyOnTilt]

What he said.

GoT

[Sponger15SB]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse... basically I am a huge nit

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FYP

You know the other day, my girlfriend ate top ramen for dinner. I didn't break up with her because I believe that there is more to a person than what the eat for one meal.

[KDawgCometh]

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I have nothing much to say other than I can't believe that you forked out ~$300 on a lunch date and didn't get any. Now that's criminal

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In the words of Curly from City Slickers....

Day ain't over yet!

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Touche

[SpearsBritney]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

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If I took a chick on a $300-400 dinner date and she put A1 on her filet I would wonder wtf was wrong with my judgement that I somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

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Understood. However, since I specified otherwise attractive girl, wouldn't being able to dine her rather inexpensively be a positive?

[wacki]

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I am far from politically correct, diplomatic, or even reasonable, but this response is off base.

Steve's question was about whether a matter of epicurian incorrectness can offset the positive aspects of a potential partner. It has nothing to do with being gay.

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A valid point, still I'm not so sure.

From bigsteve
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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon.

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If any of my friends said something like this I would beat them. And if they ever caught me saying something like this, I hope they would beat me. Every single person has different tastes/genes/likes. Ok, I admit I was stereotyping but a lot of gay people think like this and very few straight people are able to relate to this mentality unless they are a metrosexual. This sentence reminded me of that show "Quere eye for the straight Guy". Those guys would give excellent advice in this situation.

From you:
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Along similar lines, I once broke up with a girl who thought Monty Python was "just really dumb," and "didn't make any sense."

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Now that I can relate to!!! Ok I can see how they are somewhat related but at the same time the monty python loving guy will be much worse off at giving advice when dealing with an "unforgivable offense" to Filet Mignon as compared to a guy who does think in that similar fashion.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, still I don't undertand that "unforgivable offense" [censored]. It's his food, who gives a [censored]. Let him eat it how he wants to. Honestly I think your priorities are messed up. You're going nuts over something that doesn't matter, but doesn't effect you in the least tiniest bit!

Holy cow, I just gave gay dating advice. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif


BTW, what is a correctional officer doing buying a $150 lunch? They must get paid a lot more then I thought they did.

[daryn]

you guys are all a bunch of losers. eat what you want.

i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

[Duke]

I don't understand the question. Are you asking if a guy who doesn't know proper etiquette is really gay? I say no.

~D

[jakethebake]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse... basically I am a huge nit

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FYP

You know the other day, my girlfriend ate top ramen for dinner. I didn't break up with her because I believe that there is more to a person than what the eat for one meal.

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Yea. But there's obviously some serious issues with anyone that would do this to a steak. It's not just the meal itself. It's a sign of other problems.

[Cubswin]

The guy likes sauce with his meat and you are going to hold it against him???

[tbach24]

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i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

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The next time I have a steak I will do this too. Maybe then it will taste good.

[TStoneMBD]

take pictures and post them here

[spamuell]

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The guy likes sauce with his meat and you are going to hold it against him???

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I think Steve's question is just whether he should hold it against him.

[Blackjack]

I've had 20$ steaks that dont need A1 at all because they're so damn good. Then again, I've had 70$ steaks where the cow should be killed again for having such bad meat.

Capital Grille.. yuck tew.

The Palms $$$$
Ruth's Chris $$$$
Morton's $$$$

Blackjack

[GuyOnTilt]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse... basically I am a huge nit

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FYP

You know the other day, my girlfriend ate top ramen for dinner. I didn't break up with her because I believe that there is more to a person than what the eat for one meal.

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So do I. The whole medium-well thing wasn't the sole reason for my not going out with her again, though I will admit I had a hard time not being put off when I heard her order, but she almost made up for it by insisting we have red wine. I'm not "into wine" at all, so it was way fun to do something different. But when you're still in the getting to know you stage with a girl, you're going to inevitably form a list of pluses and minuses and have certain things weighted more than others according to what's more important to you. Taste in food happens to be weighted higher for me than most other guys, and ordering a filet medium-well goes on the minus side for me. A little extra weight added for this being at a semi-nice steakhouse, so it would have been a very good piece of meat. I think the total bill came to $220 after tip. But yeah, and it's not like I actually am consciously doing this +/- thing obviously, but everybody does it with people they are still getting to know. That's how you decide if you like someone or not and want to continue spending time with them or whatever.

GoT

[Klepton]

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you guys are all a bunch of losers. eat what you want.

i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

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it's official, you make me laugh

[radek2166]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Yeah I gues I will get more responses if it went like this....

I when to lunch today with a mammal. He/She/It put A1 Steak Sauce on His/Her/Its Filet Mignon.

Is that better /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Big Steve /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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LMFAO


A1 on a good piece meat. [censored] redneck!!!

[wacki]

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Yeah I gues I will get more responses if it went like this....

I when to lunch today with a mammal. He/She/It put A1 Steak Sauce on His/Her/Its Filet Mignon.

Is that better

Big Steve

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I'm sorry Steve. I apologize. I guess I just don't relate to that stuff at all. I've ate at a lot of fancy restaurants and I wouldn't give a crap how they at their food. I live in Bloomington and I guess I just run into way to many uber trendy gay people where they consider lots of things like that to be a "crime". You seemed to be using a similar lingo so I jumped to conclusions. Looks like GoT is in the same boat as you are. Please forgive me. You're still a wuss for thinking that way though. I don't care how many people you kill. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Still, I think your priorities are messed up. If he loves the sauce let him use the sauce. I love mixing ketchup and mayonnaise together for my fries. I also like mixing beer with multiple juices/mixes like they do in Germany. In Europe people think it's classy, in the US people think it's disgusting. If someone is going to break up with me because of that it's ok with me. I'd rather know now where their priorities are. After you spend $40 on a steak all the extra classiness is either artificial or purely austentatious IMO.

I went out with my dad where a wedge of iceberg lettuce a small tomato and 2 rings of onions with no dressing ran you 15.50. The price of the steak wasn't even on the menu. I ordered a steak and I had to ask for some barbecue sauce as it wasn't made well. There is also a place in Iowa that is called the lighthouse factory. The prime rib there is cheap and I would rather fly out there then eat at many $200 a plate places I've been to.

[wacki]

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you guys are all a bunch of losers. eat what you want.

i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

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My respect for you just grew 10x.

[bholdr]

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Straight people don't think like gay people do.

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g'huh? wacki, i like you and all, but that's a stupid thing to say.

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You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick

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i am straight, though not a homophobe, and i have some very strong ideas on the proper way to deliver a hummer (having recieved both good and meidiocre head i am able to differentiate between the two and perceive what makes the difference. two words: tounge stud)

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Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg.

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again, this is an incredibly narrow minded statement relitive to your normal posts... i'm baffled. as a guy, i'd like to think i know something about guys. haven't you ever asked your female freinds for girl advice?

[Talk2BigSteve]

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Yeah I gues I will get more responses if it went like this....

I when to lunch today with a mammal. He/She/It put A1 Steak Sauce on His/Her/Its Filet Mignon.

Is that better

Big Steve

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I'm sorry Steve. I apologize. I guess I just don't relate to that stuff at all. I've ate at a lot of fancy restaurants and I wouldn't give a crap how they at their food. I live in Bloomington and I guess I just run into way to many uber trendy gay people where they consider lots of things like that to be a "crime". You seemed to be using a similar lingo so I jumped to conclusions. Looks like GoT is in the same boat as you are. Please forgive me. You're still a wuss for thinking that way though. I don't care how many people you kill. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Still, I think your priorities are messed up. If he loves the sauce let him use the sauce. I love mixing ketchup and mayonnaise together for my fries. I also like mixing beer with multiple juices/mixes like they do in Germany. In Europe people think it's classy, in the US people think it's disgusting. If someone is going to break up with me because of that it's ok with me. I'd rather know now where their priorities are. After you spend $40 on a steak all the extra classiness is either artificial or purely austentatious IMO.

I went out with my dad where a wedge of iceberg lettuce a small tomato and 2 rings of onions with no dressing ran you 15.50. The price of the steak wasn't even on the menu. I ordered a steak and I had to ask for some barbecue sauce as it wasn't made well. There is also a place in Iowa that is called the lighthouse factory. The prime rib there is cheap and I would rather fly out there then eat at many $200 a plate places I've been to.

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I am not breaking up with him, in fact we are going back out tonight to the movies. I did not mean it to come out as I was going to break up with him for this, I meant it as is there any point in trying to explain etiquette to him, or should I just enjoy the quirky things that he does and laugh about it later.

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[Clarkmeister]

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I did not mean it to come out as I was going to break up with him for this, I meant it as is there any point in trying to explain etiquette to him, or should I just enjoy the quirky things that he does and laugh about it later.


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As I alluded to in my other post, you should be asking yourself wtf was wrong with your judgement that you somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

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[maryfield48]

See, this:

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He does not have alot to talk about...

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Is far, far more reason (IMO) to boot him than this:

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon.

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[somethingstupid]

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I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that?

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<insert witty comment here>

[Blarg]

Well, what are you looking for? Sex is easy, and love is hard to find. If you just want to bang him, who cares what he puts on his steak? If you're going to decide something like love on the basis of things like the color of someone's nail polish, what kind of belt buckle he wears, or his level of experience of fine dining, you're foolish, not ready for love, and don't deserve love, and there are probably long odds against your ever finding it. Or at least the authentic item.

I'm remembering that Seinfeld episode where he was going with a beautiful girl he really liked, but he couldn't date her anymore because she ate her peas one by one, and Boomerang, where Eddie Murphy is trauma-stricken if a girl he likes doesn't have beautiful feet, whatever that means.

Maybe you could find a way to come off as a teacher or a guide to him, and see if you can share the fun and coolness of what you know and like, rather come off as if you were sitting in judgment over him. Expanding his horizons in a friendly way, as a kind of gift of your world to his, rather than an imposition of it over him. And if despite your best efforts he still thinks steak is better with A1 sauce or likes ketchup with his eggs...feh. Oh well. Heck, some people will do things differently just so they keep their individuality and don't feel smothered or controlled.

There's pretty much nobody you'll ever meet who won't know more than you about something or do it better and with more aplomb than you, and vice-versa, so you might as well cut each other some slack before you each come off the fool. Not cutting people slack shows egotism, selfishness, and a fear of commitment sometimes, and shows way more about you than it possibly could about him.

Unless there's something else significant about your impressions of him and relationship with him that you haven't told us, your merely asking this question, or making a joke out of it, either way, shows more of a faultline cracking your facade than his. Chances are that you are both redeemable, if that's actually the way you want it to be.

I have to wonder again about that self-sabotage thing and fear of intimacy. It's not being open to love when you're only open to a narrow, peculiar, very particular ideal. It can be just a protective withdrawal into juvenile fantasy instead of accepting a chance of happiness, and the responsibility for obtaining it, as your natural birthright.

[wacki]

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g'huh? wacki, i like you and all, but that's a stupid thing to say.

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Then why is there the Fab 5?

Maybe you should come to bloomington I can easily make you change your mind. Please not I realize there are exceptions and steve is one of them.

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again, this is an incredibly narrow minded statement relitive to your normal posts... i'm baffled. as a guy, i'd like to think i know something about guys. haven't you ever asked your female freinds for girl advice?

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Steves choice of words set misled me. Steve is obviously not that particular kind of guy and I was mistaken.

[spamuell]

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The guy likes sauce with his meat and you are going to hold it against him???

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I think Steve's question is just whether he should hold it against him.

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OK this was clearly too subtle but I wanted to make it known that I wasn't just stating the obvious.

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likes ketchup with his eggs

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There's another way to do it? Criminal.

[Blarg]

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Lol Rushmore. I once stopped hooking up with a girl largely because she didn't laugh at all when Triumph from the Conan show goes and insults are those Star Wars nerds. Just couldn't stand for that [censored].
-James

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This is practically a criminal offense. You would have been well within your rights to punch her.

[Pocket Trips]

I'm not sure why people try to turn every post of yours into a gay issue. Straight people have these same issues as welll so the fact that the problem is with a gay couple is irrelevant. anyway onto the problem...

It all comes down to what you want out of this relationship.

If you just want a fling to be able to put it in his pooper a few times, then go for it. Just take him to Sizzler or denny's next time and you won't feel embarrassed by his eating habits.

However, if this is going to develop into a serious relationship, I see many problems. From your post it sounds like a lunch like this is nothing out of the ordinary for you but was the fanciest meal of this guy's life. You can try to explain to him that it is not seen as "proper" to put A1 on a $40 piece of meat, but he may resent you for it or may always feel uncomfortable in nice surroundings with you which will eventually lead to other problems.

As other people have said, its not the offense itself but what it and your reaction to it represent. It sounds like his idea of a great Sunday afternoon is Nascar and beer while yours may be doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. So like I said stick it in his pooper till you either decide he can adopt your standards of behavior or till you get tired of hanging out with people named Cletus.

[Blarg]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse with a girl a few weeks ago and she ordered a filet medium-well. I have not gone out with her since.

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Sounds like she lucked out so much it was practically like hitting the lottery.

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

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If I took a chick on a $300-400 dinner date and she put A1 on her filet I would wonder wtf was wrong with my judgement that I somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

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Easily one of the more assinine posts of the year.

[thirddan]

i don't know why this would bother anyone, a lot of you are coming off very snobbish...maybe this guy likes his steak with A1, who cares? it doesn't mean that he doesn't know good food, it just means that he preferred this particular steak with some sauce...its not like he was chewing with his mouth open and drooling everywhere...and in steves case it seems like he really wants to continue this relationship, so why would something stupid like this prevent it?

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

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If I took a chick on a $300-400 dinner date and she put A1 on her filet I would wonder wtf was wrong with my judgement that I somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

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Easily one of the more assinine posts of the year.

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Thank you.

[Blarg]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse... basically I am a huge nit

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FYP

You know the other day, my girlfriend ate top ramen for dinner. I didn't break up with her because I believe that there is more to a person than what the eat for one meal.

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So do I. The whole medium-well thing wasn't the sole reason for my not going out with her again, though I will admit I had a hard time not being put off when I heard her order, but she almost made up for it by insisting we have red wine. I'm not "into wine" at all, so it was way fun to do something different. But when you're still in the getting to know you stage with a girl, you're going to inevitably form a list of pluses and minuses and have certain things weighted more than others according to what's more important to you. Taste in food happens to be weighted higher for me than most other guys, and ordering a filet medium-well goes on the minus side for me. A little extra weight added for this being at a semi-nice steakhouse, so it would have been a very good piece of meat. I think the total bill came to $220 after tip. But yeah, and it's not like I actually am consciously doing this +/- thing obviously, but everybody does it with people they are still getting to know. That's how you decide if you like someone or not and want to continue spending time with them or whatever.

GoT

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Good thing you're good at poker.

[Clarkmeister]

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i don't know why this would bother anyone, a lot of you are coming off very snobbish

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Sometimes "snobbish" really is "weeding out the unqualified."

[wacki]

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My thoughts as well. Although it did make me laugh out loud.

[Blarg]

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you guys are all a bunch of losers. eat what you want.

i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

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My respect for you just grew 10x.

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Ditto. The only old-timer who hasn't jumped the shark in this thread.

[Clarkmeister]

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My thoughts as well. Although it did make me laugh out loud.

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Sometimes "snobbish" really is "weeding out the unqualified."

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A1 steak sauce disqualifies you from what??? Being good in bed??? Being able to raise a family????

[Blarg]

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i don't know why this would bother anyone, a lot of you are coming off very snobbish

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Sometimes "snobbish" really is "weeding out the unqualified."

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Not in this case, though, unless you're talking about yourself.

[Ray Zee]

buy him a bottle of lea and perrins worchester sauce. thats the only thing to put on a steak. cheap or not.
then worry about whether he puts butter on his veggies.

[Rushmore]

I hear everything you're saying, but my thinking was that the universal language among "real men" of any inclination involves an understanding of what a good steak is, and, further, an understanding of how it is to be enjoyed.

If knowing how to eat steak properly is "metrosexual," I guess I gotta start watching Sex In The City or wherever that term came from, because I am all about steak appreciation and understanding.

[Clarkmeister]

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Not in this case, though, unless you're talking about yourself.

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ooooooooh, you are just sooooooo cool with your anti-snobbish snobbishness.

[daryn]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse with a girl a few weeks ago and she ordered a filet medium-well. I have not gone out with her since.

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Sounds like she lucked out so much it was practically like hitting the lottery.

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ooh very nice blarg.

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

If this was a first date, you spent too much on him. If this was not the first date, and you spent $300 without getting laid, you spent too much on him.

The A-1 sauce is a crime against humanity, but a misdemeanor crime against humanity. He may be remediable.

[AviD]

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon. I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that?



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Anyone that does that is a lost cause.
Also, anyone that cooks their steak WELL DONE is a lost cause.

Not sure which is worse, A1 or Well Done...certainly debateable.

[Clarkmeister]

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon. I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that?



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Anyone that does that is a lost cause.
Also, anyone that cooks their steak WELL DONE is a lost cause.

Not sure which is worse, A1 or Well Done...certainly debateable.

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Well done. But I've noticed that the well done people are exponentially more likely to be A1 people than medium rare people so they are somewhat likely to go hand-in-hand.

[BottlesOf]

Those people are hopelss. I'm sure there are some in this thread who will argue he did nothing wrong, which is why I'm not going to read any of the responses.

[GuyOnTilt]

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i don't know why this would bother anyone, a lot of you are coming off very snobbish

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A1 steak sauce disqualifies you from what??? Being good in bed??? Being able to raise a family????

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Different people have different things that they value. Some people value exceptionally good food. Others may not. But if someone who was a very refined wine enthusiast bought me an expensive bottle of wine and upon pouring me a glass and me having a sip I decided I'd like it better with a little splash of Dr. Pepper, I think he would be justified in being put off by it. The fact that it truly tastes better to me that way shouldn't affect that. I don't know wines, so I may not be to the extent other people would. Other people don't know steak as well as I do, so they may not be put off as much as I am by certain things pertaining to steak. And I don't expect everyone else to, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate people who do share the same interests and passions as me more.

GoT

[Talk2BigSteve]

Well we are about to go out for coffee and a movie. I am letting him pick the movie.

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[Blarg]

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I'm not sure why people try to turn every post of yours into a gay issue. Straight people have these same issues as welll so the fact that the problem is with a gay couple is irrelevant. anyway onto the problem...

It all comes down to what you want out of this relationship.

If you just want a fling to be able to put it in his pooper a few times, then go for it. Just take him to Sizzler or denny's next time and you won't feel embarrassed by his eating habits.

However, if this is going to develop into a serious relationship, I see many problems. From your post it sounds like a lunch like this is nothing out of the ordinary for you but was the fanciest meal of this guy's life. You can try to explain to him that it is not seen as "proper" to put A1 on a $40 piece of meat, but he may resent you for it or may always feel uncomfortable in nice surroundings with you which will eventually lead to other problems.

As other people have said, its not the offense itself but what it and your reaction to it represent. It sounds like his idea of a great Sunday afternoon is Nascar and beer while yours may be doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. So like I said stick it in his pooper till you either decide he can adopt your standards of behavior or till you get tired of hanging out with people named Cletus.

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Or he could be someone at least as intelligent as Steve and quite a bit more classy, for all we know from the information given, but who just hasn't been exposed to much fine dining in his life. That's not exactly a crime in this country; not yet, anyway.

It certainly doesn't mean a diagnosis of the guy is complete, unless the guy doing the diagnosing of the guy is a moron incapable of doing a diagnosis worth hearing. And it doesn't mean the guy has no potential that extends beyond the tip of his pooper.

The attempt to try to read too much into too little, and happily scramble to publicly brand oneself as "better than" or even "more adaptable than" others by a number of posters here falls well into the realm of the ridiculous, and far worse.

[AviD]

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Well we are about to go out for coffee and a movie. I am letting him pick the movie.

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Hard to ruin coffee...so I think you are good to go tonight! /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Of course...he is picking the movie. My guess is an action flick or a Western.

[GuyOnTilt]

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I knew I liked this guy.

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[AviD]

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A1 steak sauce disqualifies you from what??? Being good in bed??? Being able to raise a family????

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It disqualifies him from cuisine compatability, which leads to other disqualifications down the road. Surely cuisine is not his only incompatability, this is just the beginning! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Clarkmeister]

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I'm not sure why people try to turn every post of yours into a gay issue. Straight people have these same issues as welll so the fact that the problem is with a gay couple is irrelevant. anyway onto the problem...

It all comes down to what you want out of this relationship.

If you just want a fling to be able to put it in his pooper a few times, then go for it. Just take him to Sizzler or denny's next time and you won't feel embarrassed by his eating habits.

However, if this is going to develop into a serious relationship, I see many problems. From your post it sounds like a lunch like this is nothing out of the ordinary for you but was the fanciest meal of this guy's life. You can try to explain to him that it is not seen as "proper" to put A1 on a $40 piece of meat, but he may resent you for it or may always feel uncomfortable in nice surroundings with you which will eventually lead to other problems.

As other people have said, its not the offense itself but what it and your reaction to it represent. It sounds like his idea of a great Sunday afternoon is Nascar and beer while yours may be doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. So like I said stick it in his pooper till you either decide he can adopt your standards of behavior or till you get tired of hanging out with people named Cletus.

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Or he could be someone at least as intelligent as Steve and quite a bit more classy, for all we know from the information given, but who just hasn't been exposed to much fine dining in his life. That's not exactly a crime in this country; not yet, anyway.

It certainly doesn't mean a diagnosis of the guy is complete, unless the guy doing the diagnosing of the guy is a moron incapable of doing a diagnosis worth hearing. And it doesn't mean the guy has no potential that extends beyond the tip of his pooper.

The attempt to try to read too much into too little, and happily scramble to publicly brand oneself as "better than" or even "more adaptable than" others by a number of posters here falls well into the realm of the ridiculous, and far worse.

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Steve is talking about you, isn't he?

[AviD]

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I knew I liked this guy.

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Honestly, I'm not sure how one sauce is better than another. But I'm sure you both like it.

[Pocket Trips]

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I'm not sure why people try to turn every post of yours into a gay issue. Straight people have these same issues as welll so the fact that the problem is with a gay couple is irrelevant. anyway onto the problem...

It all comes down to what you want out of this relationship.

If you just want a fling to be able to put it in his pooper a few times, then go for it. Just take him to Sizzler or denny's next time and you won't feel embarrassed by his eating habits.

However, if this is going to develop into a serious relationship, I see many problems. From your post it sounds like a lunch like this is nothing out of the ordinary for you but was the fanciest meal of this guy's life. You can try to explain to him that it is not seen as "proper" to put A1 on a $40 piece of meat, but he may resent you for it or may always feel uncomfortable in nice surroundings with you which will eventually lead to other problems.

As other people have said, its not the offense itself but what it and your reaction to it represent. It sounds like his idea of a great Sunday afternoon is Nascar and beer while yours may be doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. So like I said stick it in his pooper till you either decide he can adopt your standards of behavior or till you get tired of hanging out with people named Cletus.

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Or he could be someone at least as intelligent as Steve and quite a bit more classy, for all we know from the information given, but who just hasn't been exposed to much fine dining in his life. That's not exactly a crime in this country; not yet, anyway.

It certainly doesn't mean a diagnosis of the guy is complete, unless the guy doing the diagnosing of the guy is a moron incapable of doing a diagnosis worth hearing. And it doesn't mean the guy has no potential that extends beyond the tip of his pooper.

The attempt to try to read too much into too little, and happily scramble to publicly brand oneself as "better than" or even "more adaptable than" others by a number of posters here falls well into the realm of the ridiculous, and far worse.

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My point was that this is NOT a gay issue... If making that point makes me come across as "better" than anyone else then I think you are the one reading too much into what someone posts on a message board

[Clarkmeister]

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You'd be shocked at what some are saying.

[GuyOnTilt]

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I knew I liked this guy.

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Honestly, I'm not sure how one sauce is better than another. But I'm sure you both like it.

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Yeah, I don't mind other people liking different sauces. Lea &amp; Perrins is just the one I enjoy the most and nothing else is really close for me.

GoT

[Blarg]

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i don't know why this would bother anyone, a lot of you are coming off very snobbish

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Sometimes "snobbish" really is "weeding out the unqualified."

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Not in this case, though, unless you're talking about yourself.

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ooooooooh, you are just sooooooo cool with your anti-snobbish snobbishness.

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Being cool is of little interest to me, so I'll pass on your sincere compliment.

Your perceptiveness could really use some work, though.

For what it's worth, I wasn't entirely convinced you weren't kidding with your original post, and it made me laugh too, until you bollixed it with this one. Which was lame even by the standards of your original one.

[Alobar]

Big Steve, you kick ass. Asking man advice from this bunch is funny as hell /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I guess I dont ever have to worry about you dating me, because I put ketchup on any steak I eat, no matter what the price /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[gorie]

ok i'm trying to figure something out... i've never been to a fancy restaurant. any steak i've eaten was cooked at home. i have never used A1 sauce, i don't think i would like it. i would certainly be lost when it comes to 'eating food correctly in a fancy restaurant'.

what i want to know is if this is not an acceptable thing to do at a place like this -- why do they even have A1 sauce there ? or did he bring it in his purse

i mean as long as it wasn't actually something "gross" to watch (like when i had to watch this one guy dip his fries in like 4 sauces that weren't even served with his fries - that was pretty disgusting for me to watch) i don't see what the big deal is. i don't care if my steak costs $1000 if i really liked A1 sauce on my steak i'd still put A1 sauce on it. maybe to him it made it taste like $2000. i'd think he's at least allowed to have his own tastebuds.

[Clarkmeister]

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ooooooooh, you are just sooooooo cool with your anti-snobbish snobbishness.

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Being cool is of little interest to me, so I'll pass on your sincere compliment.

Your perceptiveness could really use some work, though.

For what it's worth, I wasn't entirely convinced you weren't kidding with your original post, and it made me laugh too, until you bollixed it with this one. Which was lame even by the standards of your original one.

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What's worse: Me thinking A1 in a top notch steakhouse is distasteful or you arguing that it's unacceptible for me to find it distasteful?

[Blarg]

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I'm not sure why people try to turn every post of yours into a gay issue. Straight people have these same issues as welll so the fact that the problem is with a gay couple is irrelevant. anyway onto the problem...

It all comes down to what you want out of this relationship.

If you just want a fling to be able to put it in his pooper a few times, then go for it. Just take him to Sizzler or denny's next time and you won't feel embarrassed by his eating habits.

However, if this is going to develop into a serious relationship, I see many problems. From your post it sounds like a lunch like this is nothing out of the ordinary for you but was the fanciest meal of this guy's life. You can try to explain to him that it is not seen as "proper" to put A1 on a $40 piece of meat, but he may resent you for it or may always feel uncomfortable in nice surroundings with you which will eventually lead to other problems.

As other people have said, its not the offense itself but what it and your reaction to it represent. It sounds like his idea of a great Sunday afternoon is Nascar and beer while yours may be doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. So like I said stick it in his pooper till you either decide he can adopt your standards of behavior or till you get tired of hanging out with people named Cletus.

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Or he could be someone at least as intelligent as Steve and quite a bit more classy, for all we know from the information given, but who just hasn't been exposed to much fine dining in his life. That's not exactly a crime in this country; not yet, anyway.

It certainly doesn't mean a diagnosis of the guy is complete, unless the guy doing the diagnosing of the guy is a moron incapable of doing a diagnosis worth hearing. And it doesn't mean the guy has no potential that extends beyond the tip of his pooper.

The attempt to try to read too much into too little, and happily scramble to publicly brand oneself as "better than" or even "more adaptable than" others by a number of posters here falls well into the realm of the ridiculous, and far worse.

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My point was that this is NOT a gay issue... If making that point makes me come across as "better" than anyone else then I think you are the one reading too much into what someone posts on a message board

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And it was a poor answer that you got called on.

The gay issue crap was only the first line of your post, which has nothing to do with the entire rest of your post. Clearly it was the focus of neither of our posts, so if you want to squirm out of addressing what you yourself said or my response, fine. But don't bother trying silly tricks to see if you can pass the buck to me on that one.

[daryn]

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or did he bring it in his purse

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it's european!

[Pocket Trips]

since you seem to mentally challenged i will spell out exactly what i was responding to

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to publicly brand oneself as "better than" or even "more adaptable than" others by a number of posters here falls well into the realm of the ridiculous, and far worse.


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I don't care what you think of my response to Steve's OP but to say I brand myself as "better" than anyone else is just plain assinine. I am sorry if this is beyond your diminished mental capacity to understand

[Blarg]

Why is there an either/or in this scenario? Could there be an answer that would make any side of an either/or look better than it is?

Aside from which, we both know that what you are describing is not even close to what transpired in the discussion at hand. And if there's any "worse" to be passed around, it would be better gifted to your attempt to muddy the waters.

Better and more truthfully stated, your comparison should read something like, What's worse: Me thinking someone who uses A1 in a top notch steakhouse is distasteful or you arguing that it's unacceptable for me to find that person distasteful?

Or how about this variation: What's worse: Me addressing your words in away that points out how uflattering they are to you, or you actually twisting mine to make them look unflattering to me?

In the immortal words of Apu: Thank you, come again.

[Blarg]

Your posts are there in plain text. All the snotty rebuttals in the world can't erase that. I'd suggest the delete button, or the edit button, if it's not too late.

[Blarg]

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ok i'm trying to figure something out... i've never been to a fancy restaurant. any steak i've eaten was cooked at home. i have never used A1 sauce, i don't think i would like it. i would certainly be lost when it comes to 'eating food correctly in a fancy restaurant'.

what i want to know is if this is not an acceptable thing to do at a place like this -- why do they even have A1 sauce there ? or did he bring it in his purse

i mean as long as it wasn't actually something "gross" to watch (like when i had to watch this one guy dip his fries in like 4 sauces that weren't even served with his fries - that was pretty disgusting for me to watch) i don't see what the big deal is. i don't care if my steak costs $1000 if i really liked A1 sauce on my steak i'd still put A1 sauce on it. maybe to him it made it taste like $2000. i'd think he's at least allowed to have his own tastebuds.

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Real people need not apply.

[Pocket Trips]

If i could delete your posts and save others from reading such drivel i would but unfortunately i am not able to.



I am still trying to figure out how I am supposedly "better" than anyone by saying that this is not a gay issue and since you have not addressed this question in any of your oh so cool responses i assume you know you are completely off base but are too proud or stupid to realize it. So f you want to addtress the accusation you made go right ahead but please spare the rest of us your wittyremarks... they are way overratted in your own mind

[wacki]

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I hear everything you're saying, but my thinking was that the universal language among "real men" of any inclination involves an understanding of what a good steak is, and, further, an understanding of how it is to be enjoyed.

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Real men???? My dad buys an entire cow every year and pays someone raise properly from birth. They then chop it up and we have an entire freezer just for the meat. Without writing two pages, trust me, I know what a good steak is. And slapping a $200 bill on the menu isn't it.

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If knowing how to eat steak properly is "metrosexual," I guess I gotta start watching Sex In The City or wherever that term came from, because I am all about steak appreciation and understanding.

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Metrosexual, pedantic, austentatious, snob, gay whatever you want to call it.

[wacki]

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But if someone who was a very refined wine enthusiast bought me an expensive bottle of wine and upon pouring me a glass and me having a sip I decided I'd like it better with a little splash of Dr. Pepper, I think he would be justified in being put off by it.

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Ok, the problem with that situation is that he is giving you a gift. I would go out of my way to partake in his ceremony/ritual not only to broaden my horizons but to show respect for his generosity.

Being picky about what he likes to eat with a meal he is paying for is asinine, disrespectful, and a display of a fundamental lack of understanding of genetics IMO. It may also be possible to add insecurity to the list as well.

If steve was paying for the meal steve should of informed him the of the proper way to do things at a place like this. If the guy doesn't change his ways out of respect for steves gift then steve has a legit complaint. Until then, you are just being a whiny bitch that is too afraid to open his or her mouth to inform someone that may just be ingorant of a custom and is creating a huge problem out of nothing.

[gorie]

no, really, where did the A1 come from ?

[wacki]

I've just decided that I really like gorie.

[Voltron87]

if the guy likes A1 sauce on his steak, let him have A1 sauce on his steak. I don't see the problem here. sure, his taste may be different than yours, so introduce him to what you think are the finer points of cuisine.

I don't even want to get into all the meat/sauce/manlove jokes there are to be made here.

living, laughing, and eating meat covered in sweet sauce...

[Blarg]

Dude, STICK TO THE POINT YOU MAKE IN YOUR OWN POSTS. If you address the posts of others, stick to the points they make in theirs.

For god's sake, how dumb can one guy possibly be.

[Blarg]

She took a step up in my book too.

[Pocket Trips]

you dumb [censored] [censored] faced douche how can you accuse someone of saying they are " better" than others and not bne able to back up your statements?

[Eurotrash]

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you guys are all a bunch of losers. eat what you want.

i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

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[JackWilson]

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But if someone who was a very refined wine enthusiast bought me an expensive bottle of wine and upon pouring me a glass and me having a sip I decided I'd like it better with a little splash of Dr. Pepper, I think he would be justified in being put off by it.

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Ok, the problem with that situation is that he is giving you a gift. I would go out of my way to partake in his ceremony/ritual not only to broaden my horizons but to show respect for his generosity.

Being picky about what he likes to eat with a meal he is paying for is asinine, disrespectful, and a display of a fundamental lack of understanding of genetics IMO. It may also be possible to add insecurity to the list as well.

If steve was paying for the meal steve should of informed him the of the proper way to do things at a place like this. If the guy doesn't change his ways out of respect for steves gift then steve has a legit complaint. Until then, you are just being a whiny bitch that is too afraid to open his or her mouth to inform someone that may just be ingorant of a custom and is creating a huge problem out of nothing.

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I find myself agreeing almost completely with wacki here. A rarity.

I challenge anyone who's been in a 2 year+ relationship to say that they haven't found some extreme differences between them and their partner. If this particular guy is awesome but he likes A1 on his steak...I don't see what the issue is.

[GuyOnTilt]

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Ok, the problem with that situation is that he is giving you a gift.

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True. I suppose I was trying to find something that correlated with taking a girl out to dinner. I still would find it justifiable for an enthusiast to be put off if you opened a very nice bottle of wine that was yours though.

To clarify, I am not so outraged or whatever by someone doing this in my company that I would berate them or make a snide comment about it. It's just something that I find unattractive or perhaps don't find attractive (whereas I definitely find it attractive when a girl has similar tastes in fine foods that I do), the same way someone who is very into the indie music scene might not be as interested in persuing someone who listens only to pop/rock as much as someone who listened only to indie. It's perfectly reasonable for people to be more apt to enjoy people who have the same sense of taste in things. If that makes me snobbish, then whatev.

GoT

[wacki]

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the same way someone who is very into the indie music scene might not be as interested in persuing someone who listens only to pop/rock as much as someone who listened only to indie. It's perfectly reasonable for people to be more apt to enjoy people who have the same sense of taste in things. If that makes me snobbish, then whatev.

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HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!

In your indie scene example they spend significant amount of time doing different recreational activities. That effects the other partner in major ways. Steve is still spending time with that guy and he isn't being effected.

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To clarify, I am not so outraged or whatever by someone doing this in my company that I would berate them or make a snide comment about it. It's just something that I find unattractive or perhaps don't find attractive (whereas I definitely find it attractive when a girl has similar tastes in fine foods that I do),

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I think I am starting to understand your point.

If fine dining is at the top of your list in recreational activities then I wish you the best of luck. Maybe you should take walks by a culinary school or something.

If fine dining is not at the top of your recreational activities, then I wish you the best of luck in dealing with what repercussions may come.

[wacki]

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I find myself agreeing almost completely with wacki here. A rarity.

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Gooo.....

I don't really know who you are (seen the avatar but that's about it), but whenever someone says this I have the irresistable urge to ask them why this is a rarity.

[Alobar]

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but whenever someone says this I have the irresistable urge to ask them why this is a rarity.

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[Stuey]

I didn't read all the replies. But if I like a chick she can put mustard on the steak and I would not care. I would probably put some mustard on mine just so she didn't look so dumb. Either you don't like this guy much or you need to get over yourself. Very good chance you will do stupid stuff when he takes you to places he feels at home in. Would you want him to write you off for it?

[Lawrence Ng]

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Well anyway we get dress up and go to lunch at the casino, at Phllip M's and we both ordered a Filet Mignon and Lobster, with appitizer, salad, desert, and a bottle of wine, lunch came to $317.


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I guess I will never understand this, but in same sex dating who pays for the first meal? Would it be the person who initiated the question?

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon. I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that?

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You are judging a guy based on the fact that he likes his fish with A1 sauce yet you are lavished enough to go to a restaurant to dine on a lunch that is over $300?

To me I think I think you are looking at the wrong things.

Lawrence

[Mangatang]

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You are judging a guy based on the fact that he likes his fish with A1 sauce yet you are lavished enough to go to a restaurant to dine on a lunch that is over $300?



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Am I the only one LMAO?

[GuyOnTilt]

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon.

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You are judging a guy based on the fact that he likes his fish with A1 sauce

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GoT

[Ulysses]

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Steve, I have never been out on a date with a person who ordered a steak (I date women)

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WTF? You have never dated a woman who eats steak or taken one to a nice steak place? Assuming you enjoy steak yourself (based on your response), that's a little odd.

[Ulysses]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse with a girl a few weeks ago and she ordered a filet medium-well. I have not gone out with her since.

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If that's your only reason, that's dumb. Some people just prefer steak that is cooked more. Nothing wrong with that.

Would you not go out with a great girl because she didn't eat red meat? (Let's say she just doesn't like the taste of beef, no other reason)

[Ulysses]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

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If I took a chick on a $300-400 dinner date and she put A1 on her filet I would wonder wtf was wrong with my judgement that I somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

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Sometimes you're hanging out w/ a hot white trash slut and you just crave a really nice dinner.

[Ulysses]

wacki, you are very wise.

[Ulysses]

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Other people don't know steak as well as I do, so they may not be put off as much as I am by certain things pertaining to steak.

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You remind me of people who learn about what the "right" wine to drink with certain types of food is, and anything other than that is "wrong."

I bet I know steak better than you do, but the idea of being "put off" by someone putting some sauce on their meat or ordering it cooked more than I prefer just seems silly to me.

[Clarkmeister]

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I went on a lunch date today with a very cute guy.

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Steve, most people in this forum are straight. Straight people don't think like gay people do. You might as well ask a straight homophobe whats the best way to suck a dick as we have zero experience in picking up guys. Anyone who never dated a guy and thinks he can give guy advice is delusional with the possible exception of Blarg. There are plenty of gay forums out there where you can get good advice on this topic.

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So straight people don't think its weird to put A1 on a steak at a place where dinner for two costs $300-$400? You could substitute "girl" for "guy" in the initial post and the answers could/should be the same.

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Actually, I don't think most guys care if an otherwise attractive girl put A1 on her steak, but I could see how a girl (or gay male) would be a little concerned if a guy did the same.

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If I took a chick on a $300-400 dinner date and she put A1 on her filet I would wonder wtf was wrong with my judgement that I somehow got tricked into spending that much $ on some white trash slut when clearly McDonalds would've sufficed.

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Sometimes you're hanging out w/ a hot white trash slut and you just crave a really nice dinner.

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Now that's a good point. But in those instances, I am not posting on a message board about whether or not it should bother me. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Bluffoon]

It's his food, who gives a [censored]. Let him eat it how he wants to.

[GuyOnTilt]

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If that's your only reason, that's dumb.

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It wasn't. I actually really like her, moreso after that last date than before.

GoT

[david050173]

When Jessica Alba and I are having a steak dinner, she can have what ever she wants on it and I am not going to care one bit. I am pretty sure 95% of the male population will agree that is clearly the right course of action.

If you are worried he moves in different social circles, give that as the reason, not some lame food excuse.

[sublime]

You know the other day, my girlfriend ate top ramen for dinner. I didn't break up with her because I believe that there is more to a person than what the eat for one meal.

yeah, this sums it up.

[poker-penguin]

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When Jessica Alba and I are having a steak dinner, she can have what ever she wants on it and I am not going to care one bit. I am pretty sure 95% of the straight male population will agree that is clearly the right course of action.


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FYP

and the other 5% post on OOT and will suggest sticking it in her pooper as the right course of action.

[Rushmore]

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WTF? You have never dated a woman who eats steak or taken one to a nice steak place? Assuming you enjoy steak yourself (based on your response), that's a little odd.

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I hear you. I have dated a LOT of women in my life, but only ONE who ever would have ordered a steak, but that was a long time ago, and we certainly didn't have enough money so that it would have made a difference, as the steak would have been a CUBE steak at best.

The rest of my burdens, err, women have been herbivores of varying degrees.

[Talk2BigSteve]

Just got home from the movie, he picked Kicking and Screaming, he is in the other room, I told him I needed to check my e-mail real quick.

He said the Sweetest thing over coffee, "Today was really fun for me, I have never done anything that fancy before, I hope I didn't do anything wrong, did you notice the way the waiter looked at me when I asked for A1 , there is only so much I can learn in Mississippi, but I know there is a world out there to see, and if I am lucky I might just get to see it with you."

I felt great....for 2 reasons...

#1 that was really sweet thing to say.

#2 he was paying attention to the waiter's look and not the one I shot him when he asked for it!!!

Gotta Go!!!

Big Steve /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[tbach24]

Congrats Steve, now stick it in his pooper /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ethan]

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My dad buys an entire cow every year and pays someone raise properly from birth. They then chop it up and we have an entire freezer just for the meat.

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How much does this sort of thing cost? And how long do you have to wait after purchasing it before you have a freezer full of cow?

[Ulysses]

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My dad buys an entire cow every year and pays someone raise properly from birth. They then chop it up and we have an entire freezer just for the meat.

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How much does this sort of thing cost? And how long do you have to wait after purchasing it before you have a freezer full of cow?

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A friend of mine buys in bulk from a farm in California. The meat is awesome. I couldn't find a link to his place, but this looks similar:

Ross Farm (http://www.rossfarm.com/beef/quarter.html)

[bernie]

Ever think of maybe telling him about steak a little? You can't just expect someone to 'know' how to eat finer foods. Or wine for that matter. This is why many on here are coming off as snobbish. The guy may have never known or been taught. You can't hold that against someone. If you can, here's hoping you're in a situation to be hung out to dry and look like a mope. Golden rule applies here.

Here's how my grandad used to do it for us when we were kids and were trying something new. If the guy was about to order A1, he'd say, hey, hold off on the A1 and give it a try without. See if you like how they make this. You probably won't even need sauce when you taste it. If after a couple bites you still need sauce, alright then. He also had a way of saying it that really made you want to try something new. How effing tough is that? How they react to that is more telling than just letting them go with the blinders on not knowing any better.

You can't hold someone to a standard when they may not even know what the standard is. Sorry, but no one is just born knowing about steak or wine. You have to learn it somewhere. If someone judged me for not knowing any better w/o giving me the courtesy, especially if I'm dating them, of giving me a clue, screw them. That 'knowing' person has now helped the other, non-knowing person look bad.

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[johnnybeef]

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon. I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that

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this is a serious party foul.....please tell me he ordered it well done

[ethan]

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A friend of mine buys in bulk from a farm in California. The meat is awesome. I couldn't find a link to his place, but this looks similar:

Ross Farm (http://www.rossfarm.com/beef/quarter.html)

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Awesome. It'll have to wait until I get a bigger freezer, but I'm buying at least a quarter-cow. If you happen to remember the name of the place he uses, I'd appreciate a PM.

[ethan]

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Here's how my grandad used to do it for us when we were kids and were trying something new. If the guy was about to order A1, he'd say, hey, hold off on the A1 and give it a try without. See if you like how they make this. You probably won't even need sauce when you taste it. If after a couple bites you still need sauce, alright then. He also had a way of saying it that really made you want to try something new. How effing tough is that? How they react to that is more telling than just letting them go with the blinders on not knowing any better.

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This sounds about right. If you do this and he's not willing to try the steak without the sauce, then there may actually be no hope for him.

[bernie]

It's also an indication that he may not be open to try/learn things in other aspects/situations of the relationship.

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[wacki]

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I went out to a nice steakhouse with a girl a few weeks ago and she ordered a filet medium-well.

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GoT,

Maybe she couldn't think straight because she was too busy laughing at this:

http://img241.echo.cx/img241/2184/mcgot8al.jpg

[asofel]

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you guys are all a bunch of losers. eat what you want.

i'm gonna go get a $100 steak and put ketchup all over it.

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christ, thank god. you'd think we had a bunch of culinary artists in here. there's a difference between saying "oh yes i love caviar" and putting peanut butter and marshmallow on it and thinking A1 goes good with steak.

[wacki]

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wacki, you are very wise.

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Thank you very much for the unexpected compliment.

[Lazymeatball]

could you please go back to putting the [gay content, don't read this Daryn] disclaimer in the subject line.

[wacki]

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could you please go back to putting the [gay content, don't read this Daryn] disclaimer in the subject line.

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Agreed. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Talk2BigSteve]

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could you please go back to putting the [gay content, don't read this Daryn] disclaimer in the subject line.

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Oh [censored] I forgot about that, that is totally my fault.

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[Talk2BigSteve]

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But the unforgivable offense of the day IMHO is when he put A1 Steak Sauce on a Filet Mignon. I did not say anything but I was thinking all kinds of foul things about how can anyone ruin a piece of meat like that

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this is a serious party foul.....please tell me he ordered it well done

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Yes he did.

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[LethalRose]

I've had Filet Mignon and I usually just eat it, what are you supposed to put on it?

I think if you have having enough doubts to make you post this thread, its an instant move on to the next guy. I always trust my feelings and if i get a sense its not going to work out i dont bother to wait around for too long before making a decision. Doing this will make you much happier when you do find someone who you have a good connection with..clearly this guy isnt on your level.


so someone tell me what to put on Filet Mignon...

[Talk2BigSteve]

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I've had Filet Mignon and I usually just eat it, what are you supposed to put on it?

I think if you have having enough doubts to make you post this thread, its an instant move on to the next guy. I always trust my feelings and if i get a sense its not going to work out i dont bother to wait around for too long before making a decision. Doing this will make you much happier when you do find someone who you have a good connection with..clearly this guy isnt on your level.


so someone tell me what to put on Filet Mignon...

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If cooked properly, nothing and you can cut it with a fork. I like for them to butterfly the filet, where I go it is served on a large cap portabello that has been marinated.

Big Steve /images/graemlins/cool.gif