10-10-20: Kill it?

[pete fabrizio]

Blind structure is 10-10-20 (10 on the button) with a $40 bring-in. Cutoff has the option of killing the pot for $40, making the bring-in $80 and making him the last to act before the flop. Is this a +e.v. move? What game conditions should he/shouldn't he kill it? Stack sizes? Other factors?

[AZK]

Most importantly it's a function of stack size. If you are playing deep why would you ever NOT kill it? It only increases the chances of the button folding, you getting position, and builds a big pot with you in the driver's seat. No? I suppose you wouldn't kill it if the game was already so action packed that there was no reason to kill...

[AZK]

Most importantly it's a function of stack size. If you are playing deep why would you ever NOT kill it? It only increases the chances of the button folding, you getting position, and builds a big pot with you in the driver's seat. No? I suppose you wouldn't kill it if the game was already so action packed that there was no reason to kill...

Edit: It will probably also do wonders for your image and from a purely math view point it's probably +ev if the button/SB/BB fold too much.

[PGarlic]

You're talking about the game at Lucky Chances correct? FYI, you can kill it from any position, except the button.

[pete fabrizio]

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You're talking about the game at Lucky Chances correct? FYI, you can kill it from any position, except the button.

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Yes, but obviously the best position to kill from is the cutoff. Let's start with that.

[creedofhubris]

So it's a Mississippi straddle, eh? Can someone else re-straddle? If so, straddling loses some of its effect.

Anyway, if stacks are deep and the other players are passive (they're just coming in for the bring-in bet, not blasting you out of your straddle every time) it seems like a fine play in position.

[TomCollins]

The problem is that when you kill, you are putting in $40 blind, and you will have to put in another $40 just to see the flop. There is no possibility of limping. Also, most people in this game will open for at least $100 if you kill it.

There certainly are downsides of killing from the CO. I wouldn't want to kill if everyone had $1k on the table. You are basically going to have to put in 1/10th of the stacks just to see a flop with a random hand. If you are a

[pete fabrizio]

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So it's a Mississippi straddle, eh? Can someone else re-straddle? If so, straddling loses some of its effect.

Anyway, if stacks are deep and the other players are passive (they're just coming in for the bring-in bet, not blasting you out of your straddle every time) it seems like a fine play in position.

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No. A mississippi straddle, the action starts to your left. In this case, the action still starts UTG, but then skips you and comes back to you after the BB.

[creedofhubris]

That is just weird.

[flawless_victory]

i would kill that sh*t every time... good for your image.