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Omaha8Player
05-21-2005, 03:51 PM
UTG+2 is a 18-9 player
And MP3 is a 45-0 idiot /images/graemlins/wink.gif

The title says it all. It feels like UTG+2 has a owerpair and is trying to push out MP3 from a drawinghand.

What do you guys say?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

mantasm
05-21-2005, 04:02 PM
I don't think an 18/9 is cold calling preflop then just calling the flop with an overpair to this board. He's almost certainly 3betting JJ and above, and probably TT. I'd say preflop he most likely has a medium pair or big suited ace, maybe a bigger suited connector. The turn raise makes me think he has a set or maybe even QJ. I'd just call down the turn raise.

Omaha8Player
05-21-2005, 04:05 PM
so is 18-9 TAG cold calling medium pairs on the 2/4 level?

mantasm
05-21-2005, 04:16 PM
Most 18/9 guys arent' coldcalling a lot, and if they do it' sprobably not with JJ-KK. So yeah, I think his coldcalling range is about what i said above, which probably includes 66 or 77 through 99 or TT.

Omaha8Player
05-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Wait a minut it was on the Bad Beat tables of coure the tags ar coldcalling whit medium pairs. But in general if thes would have bin on a regular table.
Dam my englich is bad /images/graemlins/wink.gif