Am I missing really obviuos leaks? Stats Post

[spacemonkey57]

My winrate at 1/2 has sucked since the beginning of February. I feel like I should be winning more than 1/100. Am I missing anything obvious here? I know I should be raising more preflop and I think my went to showdown isn't high enough, but is there anything else? I'm sorry for the stats post, but I'm pulling my hair out at this point. Thank you.

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[tiltaholic]

ok. personally, i think you are losing a lot of value by being so tight. and yes, raise more pf.
and steal more blinds.
and you don't go to showdown enough
and you're likely folding a lot of winning hands.

and also post your positional stats...

[spacemonkey57]

Thanks. I've been thinking that I'm laying down too many hands but I can't seem to stop doing it. Here are my positional stats.

http://img236.echo.cx/img236/8376/position0xa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[spacemonkey57]

Also, here's the type of hand I'm having problems with. I probably shouldn't be laying this one down on the turn, but I couldn't figure what they'd be calling with other than a king or a 9.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

[tiltaholic]

bet the turn.
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but I couldn't figure what they'd be calling with other than a king or a 9.

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this is counterproductive thinking! you must know by now that they do call down often with complete garbage, right?

[Catt]

You are way too tight. I think the VPIP you have at 1/2 6-max should be your VPIP at your full ring games.

[CMonkey]

Bet the turn. If you get raised, then you might consider the merits of folding (depending on how passive/aggressive the raiser is). But so far you've been given no evidence that you're behind. Your opponents could also have any pocket pair, a gutshot draw, or any Ace.

[afk]

Hey man, those numbers look a lot like mine did during my crappy too tight phase. You have some loosening up to do.

edit: 13.88% at .5/1 is way way way too tight.

[droolie]

You are a fit or fold rock. This will not produce a high winrate.

Your VP$IP could easily be 8% higher.

Your went to showdown could be up to 10% higher. (this is the stat that is most telling. You are folding a ton of eventual winners.)

You don't raise enough pf. It looks like you might not be taking position into consideration a la isolation raises/ 3-bets and blind stealing.

W$aSD is too high. This means you don't keep anybody honest by checking out what they have. You might be folding winners in big pots, the cardinal sin of limit HE.

Lastly your aggression is a mirage. All the folding your doing is making you look aggressive when you really should be taking pot odds and implied odds into consideration and peeling (calling) more than you do on the flop and turn. When you start seeing more showdowns and chasing more draws this number will go down and your winrate will go up.

[spacemonkey57]

Thanks all, I'm going to drop back to .50-1 for 10K hands and see if I can start playing looser and more agressively. I may drop down to three tables. I think that trying to bonus whore too much has hurt my game. I aslo ran hot when I first started 1-2 and some 2-4 and was in denial about needing to improve. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to look at my stats.

[PuckNPoker]

I'd drop that down to two tables so you can get reads and think about your play more, then add tables after 10k.

Make sure you review your stats at the end of each session and look at what you did wrong for the night. You fold too much, just call down in the situations that you see as "marginal" in a big pot. You'll be surprised how many times you win. Once you get comfortable with that you'll add in some hand protection concepts with hands you previously thought were marginal but in actuality are (most likely) the best hand.

[droolie]

Work on recongnizing betting patterns in the context of relative position and board texture for the players type (LAG, TAG, LAP) The posts I look at the hardest are the ones in which people explain what a certain bet by a specific type of player in a certain situation is likely to mean. This will give you a much better idea of when to fold or continue. Ask lots of questions about this subject as well. You can play a lot of hands and not notice these patterns but once they are pointed out to you here you will be able to spot them very quickly.

For instance...

Hero has J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.

the board is

6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

the turn is a Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif

You are in EP and raised pf and bet the flop and turn and it's now 3-way. On the turn your bet is raised by the guy to your immediate left and is called by one other guy. What do you do?

Many players would fold assuming the other guy must have hit two pair or hit his Q or whatever. Many times this is just a bluff from someone holding two hearts with a 9 or a 2. Sure many times he actually has the Q but folding here in this large pot against an unknown is a mistake IMO. Folding here is very read dependent.

[grjr]

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Thanks. I've been thinking that I'm laying down too many hands but I can't seem to stop doing it. Here are my positional stats.

http://img236.echo.cx/img236/8376/position0xa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

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You are definately folding WAY too many winners. This is evident throughout all the positions but shows up the worst in the blinds since we play more hands from the BB than any other position. You are burning money in the blinds by folding all your winners.

Look at my blind stats below. I call twice as many raises as you from the BB but if you look at Win% from the BB I have won nearly twice as often. Why? Because I don't fold any draws with the proper odds and I play my decent (and sometimes not so decent) hands aggressively.

The check/raise is a very good tool from the blinds on the flop and you need to learn how to use it properly--when to build a pot and when to protect your hand.

If I were you I would stay at .50/1 for as long as it took you to stop laying down hands. Play LOTS more mid and high suited connectors preflop and learn to call (or raise) the flop when you have the proper odds.

http://home.satx.rr.com/alphadeals/BlindStats05202005.jpg

[Shillx]

Dude you are really weak tight. The big aggression numbers coax you into thinking that you are plenty aggressive, but this is simply not the case. Here is why people with "good aggression" tend to be weak/tight...

Anyone can find a raise when they flop TPTK, a set, a flush, etc. But that is all the betting/raising that you do! The problem is that if your hand isn't good enough to raise, you fold instead of call or even raise. So eventhough you appear to be a TAG...all you are really doing is betting your monsters and throwing everything else into the muck. Anyone who plays can find a raise with the top set so it really isn't that impressive. This will work at low online limits to achieve marginal winrates, but you will never be able to "crush" the game playing this way.

I highly suggest that you read SSH and some other threads on here about what and when to raise preflop. Your biggest problem looks to be in your Fold% and Call% numbers. Just 7% of your actions on the flop are calls! You have to start losing the fit or fold mentality.

Brad