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Jman28
05-20-2005, 07:11 AM
I thought you might want to know about this post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=tv&Number=2437149&Foru m=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2 431477&Search=true&where=&Name=18623&daterange=&ne werval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=# Post2437149) which I believe is him challenging Sklansky to a heads up match.

Blarg
05-20-2005, 07:32 AM
Sklansky appears to be all talk when it comes to this one.

Winning some tournaments for a change would do a hell of a lot to boost 2+2 sales. Too bad that seems out of reach for Sklansky and Malmuth. I say that in all sincerity, but then again, I'd rather people read Helmuth's books.

Despite Sklansky's protests to the contrary, there's a lot more to poker than math and logic. They both count a lot, but there are people who can handle that part of poker and still handle the rest of it as well. People skills don't seem to be Sklansky's forte.

Atropos
05-20-2005, 07:43 AM
"Despite Sklansky's protests to the contrary, there's a lot more to poker than math and logic."

I think poker is only math and logic. The only difference between Poker and natural sciences is, that there have not been generations of geniuses working on the solvation of poker problems.

Thats why the knowledge is so imcomplete that you have to use instinct because mathematical solutions are impossible to achieve.

Blarg
05-20-2005, 07:54 AM
You sound like someone who plays only online.

Atropos
05-20-2005, 08:06 AM
Yes thats true, I only play online since Poker isnt known where I live.

Theoretical question: If there was a program that would play heads-up perfectly (assume something like this exists) and I take a laptop to the casino and play against a pro, only executing what the program tells me to do, but still knowing my holecards.

Would the pro really have an edge against me?

Zelcious
05-20-2005, 08:18 AM
That depends if you know your cards or not. If you know your hand you could still give away tells even if you don't decide on what to do yourself.

Jman28
05-20-2005, 06:51 PM
I think we're off the topic.

Would anyone besides me be intrigued to see Sklansky play Gigabet heads up?

Degen
05-20-2005, 06:57 PM
i'd watch it if i was in vegas

i'm just curious what giga looks like


Andre

chopchoi
05-20-2005, 07:00 PM
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I think we're off the topic.

Would anyone besides me be intrigued to see Sklansky play Gigabet heads up?

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Would be interesting, but won't happen. Sklansky knows giving someone like Gigabet 10:9 would be a losing proposition, so he gave himself a way out.

When he made the offer, he limited to those who had already criticized him. Gigabet hadn't, so Sklasnky can refuse to play him, and still be a man of his word.

Sponger15SB
05-20-2005, 07:00 PM
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i'm just curious what giga looks like


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Gay

treeofwisdom7
05-20-2005, 07:47 PM
i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

nWirb
05-20-2005, 07:58 PM
Sigh.

Apathy
05-20-2005, 07:58 PM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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wtf?!? are on coke?

its only 8pm for fucks sake.

treeofwisdom7
05-20-2005, 08:00 PM
not coke, just my creed

SuitedSixes
05-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Yugo told me last night that he hopes to get Gigabet to sign his breats when we're in Vegas. True story.

syka16
05-20-2005, 09:24 PM
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not coke, just my creed

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wow

nickianthony
05-20-2005, 09:28 PM
hahaha yes yes yes yes yes yes yesssss

ononimo
05-20-2005, 09:59 PM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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Crazy mofos like you make me glad that there are alternatives to live poker.

Blarg
05-20-2005, 09:59 PM
It would have been more flattering if you had said yes, you were on coke, and getting electro-shock while being raped by prison guard dogs.

The Yugoslavian
05-20-2005, 10:08 PM
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thats the art of war

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The art of peace >>>>>>> The art of war

Yugoslav

oxymoron
05-20-2005, 10:13 PM
Are you serious? Do you think Gigabet can take down Doyle Brunson? Skalansky won the televised tournament of book nerds with Helmuth, Brunson and other poker giants.

Why do you guys think Skalansky sucks? I don't idolize him or anyone else I just do not understand where the hate comes from?

chopchoi
05-20-2005, 10:20 PM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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someone's been listening to too much 50 cent.

Newt_Buggs
05-20-2005, 11:40 PM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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Crazy mofos like you make me glad that there are alternatives to live poker.

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haha, i consider this part of the fun of live poker. I guess it depends on how you look at it

treeofwisdom7
05-20-2005, 11:43 PM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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Crazy mofos like you make me glad that there are alternatives to live poker.

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haha, i consider this part of the fun of live poker. I guess it depends on how you look at it

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im quiet i dont even tilt.. take my losses and go home

Daliman
05-21-2005, 12:41 AM
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i'm just curious what giga looks like


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Gay

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HE looks gay?

OOOHHH, I'M TELLING GIGABET!

Daliman
05-21-2005, 12:42 AM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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Spoken like a true $10 SNG loser.

Daliman
05-21-2005, 12:43 AM
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not coke, just my creed

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My creed. Ugh. Get over yourself.

Jman28
05-21-2005, 12:43 AM
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i'm just curious what giga looks like


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Gay

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HE looks gay?

OOOHHH, I'M TELLING GIGABET!

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nh

Daliman
05-21-2005, 12:44 AM
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thats the art of war

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The art of peace >>>>>>> The art of war

Yugoslav

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Whattya know. A bona-fide great post by Yugo. I'll be damned...

networkman
05-21-2005, 02:42 AM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

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Crazy mofos like you make me glad that there are alternatives to live poker.

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haha, i consider this part of the fun of live poker. I guess it depends on how you look at it

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im quiet i dont even tilt.. take my losses and go home

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...pick up my AK get up on the roof... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

chopchoi
05-21-2005, 03:00 PM
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i dont like gigabet and i dont know him and i could care less. i dont like hearing school girls talk about who can beat who.. FUC just fight it out. PM the other pussy and say lets play M/F.. TALK TALK TALK just proves that you got too much pride to PROVE IT!

if a motherfuKer talks [censored] i dont talk back i Fuken kill that @ss hole and i dont do it when he knows im gonna do it i Fuken wait this hes safe and sleeping.
thats the art of war

[/ QUOTE ]

Crazy mofos like you make me glad that there are alternatives to live poker.

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haha, i consider this part of the fun of live poker. I guess it depends on how you look at it

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im quiet i dont even tilt.. take my losses and go home

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...pick up my AK get up on the roof... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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why would you take your cards to the roof? so you could throw them down at whoever took your money? I think leaing the table with cards is against the rules. Well, I guess some people don't care about that, but still, don't do it with AK. Play them suckers and make some money. Wait til you get 22, or 38, or 45.

chopchoi
05-21-2005, 03:09 PM
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Are you serious? Do you think Gigabet can take down Doyle Brunson? Skalansky won the televised tournament of book nerds with Helmuth, Brunson and other poker giants.

Why do you guys think Skalansky sucks? I don't idolize him or anyone else I just do not understand where the hate comes from?

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If you put both of them at a full table of professionals, Sklansky would make a lot more money than gigabet. Heads up, Gigabet would crush Sklansky.
Giga seems to have mastered the psychological component of the game, and is good a messing with his opponet's heads. Sklansky, on the other hand, is a master of the mathematical/theoretical component of the game. Heads up, the ability to psych your opponet out is much more important.

oxymoron
05-21-2005, 03:37 PM
Again, where does this come from? We obviously know he is a math wiz given his backgroung but that doesn't dismiss his lack of pschological ability unless I'm missing something. The only thing I think gives slight evidence to this is that he doesn't care for NLHE that much. I don't believe that has anything to do with the psychology though. He has said he doesn't care for NLHE because it is easier to crush the NLHE with a little math and alot of balls than the other games which is why amatuers have won the WSOP. Skalansky came up with a model for pushing all in if you are not that good of a player and recently someone finished 8th in the WSOP with that stratagy. Ooohh what skillz.

There might be truth to what you are saying but if you guys are just saying this without any evidence to back it up or because some other moron says it than you are no different than gossiping old ladies.

citanul
05-21-2005, 04:11 PM
oxy, while you clearly are a much more rational person than chopchoi, it would be great if this thread would die, since this isn't news views and gossip or the psych forum, or heaven forbid, the wpt forum. responding to a stupid trollish post is just feeding the stupid trollish poster.

chopchoi, stop being a stupid troll, and if you insist on being so, go to the wpt forum.

i'm hoping that the op's intent was that anyone interested would post in the wpt forum, not start an idiot contest in the strategy forum.

citanul

treeofwisdom7
05-21-2005, 04:48 PM
where do i find this model?

Oluwafemi
05-21-2005, 05:19 PM
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I thought you might want to know about this post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=tv&Number=2437149&Foru m=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2 431477&Search=true&where=&Name=18623&daterange=&ne werval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=# Post2437149) which I believe is him challenging Sklansky to a heads up match.

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i don't idolize other men. as a matter of fact, i don't even idolize his game. he's a good player and he's had great success. so have many others. the only use i could get out of him [or any other good player] is:
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how can he contribute to making me a better player?

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other than that, keep the idolizing to young boys and groupies. there is no other benefit.

Moonsugar
05-21-2005, 05:32 PM
Ha!

And here I thought it was just your play/advice that was so messed up..

Get some help.

Oluwafemi
05-21-2005, 05:55 PM
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I think we're off the topic.

Would anyone besides me be intrigued to see Sklansky play Gigabet heads up?

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no sounds about right.

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Bigwig
05-21-2005, 09:08 PM
Who idolizes Gigabet?

I'm sure he's a great player and all, but I don't idolize anybody.

Oluwafemi
05-21-2005, 11:13 PM
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Who idolizes Gigabet?

I'm sure he's a great player and all, but I don't idolize anybody.

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anybody who gets all warm, fuzzy, and creamy inside when Gigabet's name is mentioned and anybody who thinks this response is even worth starting a thread over:

David Sklansky-
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And to those who think the 10-9 negates a significant skill difference, I also offered to LAY those same odds (10K to 9 K playing the same game) to anybody (other than Daniel) who criticized me (up to this point of course) on any of the threads involving this subject.

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Gigabet-
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Which thread am i supposed to criticize you on to get this deal?

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chopchoi
05-22-2005, 01:10 AM
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oxy, while you clearly are a much more rational person than chopchoi, it would be great if this thread would die, since this isn't news views and gossip or the psych forum, or heaven forbid, the wpt forum. responding to a stupid trollish post is just feeding the stupid trollish poster.

chopchoi, stop being a stupid troll, and if you insist on being so, go to the wpt forum.

i'm hoping that the op's intent was that anyone interested would post in the wpt forum, not start an idiot contest in the strategy forum.

citanul

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wtf is your problem? oxy said why he thought sklansky would beat giga, and i replied why i thought he wouldn't. You call this thread an "idiot contest," well congratulations, you just took second prize for your childish namecalling. TOW gets 1st for talk about killing people in their sleep.

DasLeben
05-22-2005, 01:18 AM
Can this thread die? Honestly, it's constantly up at the top of the list and it keeps getting in the way of, y'know, useful stuff.

Bigwig
05-22-2005, 04:22 AM
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Can this thread die? Honestly, it's constantly up at the top of the list and it keeps getting in the way of, y'know, useful stuff.

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Yes, let it die.

Hahahahahah.

Bump.