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mtdoak

05-20-2005, 04:09 AM

Since six tabling, my biggest loser by far is QQ. Can I play it any betteR?

BB is a LAG, CO is LP

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.66 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, BB 3-bets, Hero folds, CO caps, BB calls.

River: (19.66 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets, CO calls $5 (All-In).

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 7 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.66 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.66 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.66 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB
Villian is a DONK, the master of gaybetting.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises, 6 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, MP3 3-bets, CO folds, Hero caps, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.66 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (13.66 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 16.66 BB

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (15.33 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
BB bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.16 BB

Nick C

05-20-2005, 04:44 AM

It looks like you've been running into some monsters.

Hand 1: I think this is fine.

Hand 2: I actually might consider just calling down after UTG's preflop cap (depending on my read), but basically I think this is okay. I do kind of want to raise the flop, with my queens. The turn card is unfortunate and annoying, but I think there's a good chance you were losing already.

Hand 3: I think folding to the turn raise is something to consider (you have to wonder what MP3 cold-called with preflop and then called the flop with). But I might have called down too, hoping for a worse pocket pair (but not jacks, obviously) or maybe AJ. (Edit: Well, I'm not hoping for AJ anymore, on the river. But I don't really think that's what Villain has anyway.) I think usually you're in trouble here, though.

Hand 4: I guess your play was read-based, but I don't think I would have 3-bet the turn checkraise, on that board. (A turn checkraise does represent more strength than Villain's usual stop-n-go.) Sure, it could be a semi-bluff, but there are all sorts of ways you could be behind, and you may be drawing dead.

Hand 5: This one's no fun at all. I probably would have played it the same way, but wouldn't have been happy about it.

Hand 6: Yikes. I'm already worried about BB, and then CO's turn raise really looks like trouble. I guess I'd call on the turn, hoping to improve or that somehow I was best, and I'd probably make the crying call on the river. But I wouldn't be very optimistic.