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mikelow
12-06-2002, 10:00 PM
I read on one of the news sites that President Bush is "an excellent poker player" regarding his Iraq strategy.

Do you think his strategy on Iraq is a good "poker" strategy?
I have many disagreements with his approach, even though
I do agree with the need to remove Saddam and disarm the country.

Comments and flames appreciated.

snakehead
12-07-2002, 04:11 AM
think about it. most great poker players are very intelligent...

Glenn
12-07-2002, 04:20 AM
"Mr. President...Mr. President....bet or check??"

"strategery!"

Easy E
12-12-2002, 08:51 AM
Maybe he could be a tourney specialist?

(can't wait for the flames to rain down...;)

J.R.
12-12-2002, 01:38 PM
He'd be an LAG who tilted quickly, IMO.

To bad he wouldn't be able to consult his railbirds during a hand, then he'd be tough.

eldo77
12-12-2002, 01:41 PM
Everything he's ever done has been with somebody else's money.

eldo77

J.A.Sucker
12-12-2002, 03:53 PM

roGER
12-12-2002, 04:30 PM
This is going to sound like a cheap shot, but it really isn't.

Dubya isn't clever enough to be a great poker player, although his having given up booze completely shows he has got discipline, which might make him an OK player.

Again, this sounds like a cheap shot, maybe an offensive one, but I honestly believe that Saddam Hussien, whom I loathe, would make an EXCELLENT poker player. His bluffing, his ability to run calculated risks, and his amazing ability to play a weak/hopeless hand and turn it into a winner are astonishing.

Again, this message might be misread and possibly offensive to some, but I really believe what I've just typed...

- roGER

Glenn
12-12-2002, 06:39 PM
Hi roGER,

I think Saddam is an awful player. He is like a loose agressive who thinks he is tricky. He tries all sort of ridiculous things, which sometimes work, but in the end he takes losses bigger than his wins. He takes his bluffs to far, and can't fold a losing hand. In Kuwait, he waited for his country to be destroyed before giving up, even though it should have be apparent to him that he stood no chance. Currently, he is again trying to make fancy, deceptive plays that will inevitably cost him his position as leader, if not his life.

I think Bush wouldn't be a great poker player because of that silly look he gets when he does something smart/figures something out.

MS Sunshine
12-13-2002, 12:19 PM
(Glenn sets up the spike)

"I think Bush wouldn't be a great poker player because of that silly look he gets when he does something smart/figures something out."

He doesn't lose much to this tell, due to its infrequency.

(MS slams it home)

MS Sunshine

Graham
12-16-2002, 02:51 PM
Glen, re Saddam's poker: "He takes his bluffs to far"

Saddam basically called the UN and US's bluffs over weapons inspectors in years previously. Maybe they should have shown down a real hand back then, instead of just mucking.


Anyway, my pick - Fidel Castro - has to be the the overwhelming favourite for heads up world leader poker champion. He'd have been the recurring winner for decades. He'll take his small stack and have the big stacks tearing their hair out as he outmaneouvres them...

G

Webster
12-17-2002, 08:14 AM
If ". most great poker players are very intelligent... " then that pretty much means the rumors are false then?

Webster
12-17-2002, 08:18 AM
roGER - I can't stop smiling! To funny. I agreewith your last paragraph. Glenn - I also agree!

You two have made my day! LOL

MichaelD
12-18-2002, 03:15 PM
But seriously folks,

I understand the humor behind this comment and this thread; I also understand that everything is relative - but regardless of what anyone thinks of his politics - I think it is extremely naive and somewhat absurd to believe that George W Bush is not an intelligent person.

I mean think about the scope of that statement for a moment. I for one think he is an extremely intelligent person - regardless of my opinions politically. I mean it is not as though he gained the ofice because of a noble birth.

No matter how he presents himself and his ideas, and whether or not we agree or disagree with these ideas is not relevant, there can be little doubt that on the grand scale of things, he is an intelligent human being.

Just some thoughts...

Michael D.

Glenn
12-18-2002, 08:13 PM
"I understand the humor behind this comment and this thread; I also understand that everything is relative - but regardless of what anyone thinks of his politics - I think it is extremely naive and somewhat absurd to believe that George W Bush is not an intelligent person. "

I agree with this completely. Dubya acts funny sometimes, but he is no idiot. He is not one of the smartest people in the world, but his is much more intelligent than average. I get a kick out of how so many people call him dumb, and most of those people are much less intelligent than he is.

Personally, I was making fun of his speaking style.

-g-

AmericanAirlines
12-18-2002, 09:35 PM
Maybe he didn't get his post because of noble birth...

But he had the time and money to run for office because of noble birth. (Noble in the sense of family money anyway)

I believe he is both 3rd generation oil money and third generation politician. The road was well paved.

There are probably many less financially endowed people who could do the job just a well or better, but simply can't mount the campaign to get the job.

The absolute hieght you can jump to has something to do with how high the ground is you're standing on to start with.

A person who can jump 10 feet high but stands at sea level cannot jump to higher absolute hieght than someone who can jump 1 foot... but is standing in the Rockies!

Sincerely,
AA

Kevin
12-18-2002, 10:45 PM
I think he would get a lot of action on his big hands because he would be constantly underestimated - and people would try and run him over. So... as long as he can dump the losers and minimize the losses he should be a long term winner... It would probably take a 5-4 vote from the floor to ensure victory however...

Kevin

Kurn, son of Mogh
12-19-2002, 10:14 AM
Hello!! reality here!!

HE TRADED SAMMY SOSA FOR NOBODY!!!!! He can't be all that smart.

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mikelow
12-22-2002, 08:58 PM
Thanks for all the responses on this post.

I believe President Bush would be a good, maybe not great, poker player. I think his strategy of pressure on Iraq is an excellent one. He may yet defy the conventional wisdom and war may yet be avoided.

I'm not a Bush supporter, but I wanted to toss this idea out there.

Daliman
12-29-2002, 01:26 AM
Sure, he'd be good....as long as he had 20 or so advisors looking over his shoulder, gaining information on the other players holdings and tendencies, and had his brother influence the dealer to deal him the best hands.....