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grimel
05-19-2005, 02:02 AM
I was just trounced on TruePoker for about 2hrs and I have to make sure I've not forgotten how to play.

You have AA, UTG raises, UTG+1 raises, you raise, it's capped. 2 fold, 1 cold calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, I call. Am I right to think maybe someone is overplaying their hand just a tad?

Later, 3 bets to SB, calls w/ 93off 3 on flop calls 3 more bets on flop, 2 on turn catches 9 on river for 2pr. The person whose AA was beat asked why he called preflop. Because he was invested in the pot - he called 2.5bets with 93 off preflop, 3 more small bets and 2 big bets with pr of 3's 9 kicker.

He was truely walking with angles, he left up 100BB in about 2 hours. I think he folded 3 hands the whole time. I kept playing with a morbid fascination with what would happen next.

Near identical table at Absolute, PT says the table was full of fish and dice (47% was the low man other than me), one person 75%, ZERO PFR, AF <0.5 would not fold, up 50 BB in an hour and left when he lost 2 hands in a row.

I've never been on 4 tables with 1 person playing no fold'em hold'em cleaning up like that playing utter crap.

I had a 180BB downswing tonight and I had one of the least abusive nights. Crazy night.

Schwartzy61
05-19-2005, 02:11 AM
I played with a guy on PP that had 75% VP$IP and 0 PFR, was up about $70, and I watched him lose it all in the next hour or so playing .50/1

I have a guy in PT database with about 80 hands and he is up over $100 with a VP$IP over 50. It's unreal, I wish I could be (have been) there when he loses (lost) it all...

Variance works at both ends...

sin808
05-19-2005, 02:17 AM
I've been running in to the same type of thing for the last 5k hands. It's ridiculous to watch and painful to suffer through.

grimel
05-19-2005, 02:22 AM
Yes, it's been about 1.5k so far. It's all fine and good knowing long term I'll come out ahead, but it is frustrating.

radek2166
05-19-2005, 02:23 AM
MGM the mclag brothers. raise any2cards and I mean any2 fold to 1 bet on the river. Mclag A was up over 600 when I left after 5 hours. I finshed up 200.

grimel
05-19-2005, 01:17 PM
You know you are on a downswing when you are at a no fold'em all play table at Gamesgrid.

Ivanapolis
05-19-2005, 02:31 PM
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Later, 3 bets to SB, calls w/ 93off 3 on flop calls 3 more bets on flop, 2 on turn catches 9 on river for 2pr. The person whose AA was beat asked why he called preflop. Because he was invested in the pot - he called 2.5bets with 93 off preflop, 3 more small bets and 2 big bets with pr of 3's 9 kicker.

He was truely walking with angles, he left up 100BB in about 2 hours. I think he folded 3 hands the whole time. I kept playing with a morbid fascination with what would happen next.

I had a 180BB downswing tonight and I had one of the least abusive nights. Crazy night.

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You can say that I was walking with angels, call me a fish or anything you want, but I know I played quite well yesterday, course I have the money now!

tiltaholic
05-19-2005, 02:51 PM
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Later, 3 bets to SB, calls w/ 93off 3 on flop calls 3 more bets on flop, 2 on turn catches 9 on river for 2pr. The person whose AA was beat asked why he called preflop. Because he was invested in the pot - he called 2.5bets with 93 off preflop, 3 more small bets and 2 big bets with pr of 3's 9 kicker.

He was truely walking with angles, he left up 100BB in about 2 hours. I think he folded 3 hands the whole time. I kept playing with a morbid fascination with what would happen next.

I had a 180BB downswing tonight and I had one of the least abusive nights. Crazy night.

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You can say that I was walking with angels, call me a fish or anything you want, but I know I played quite well yesterday, course I have the money now!

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i-

how many people need to call a 3 bet in front of you preflop to make calling 2.5 bets correct with 93o?

thanks.
-t

Grail
05-19-2005, 04:07 PM
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how many people need to call a 3 bet in front of you preflop to make calling 2.5 bets correct with 93o?

thanks.
-t

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About 20?

-G

PuckNPoker
05-19-2005, 04:12 PM
What limit was this at on TruePoker?

grimel
05-19-2005, 04:24 PM
1/2

Ivanapolis
05-19-2005, 04:26 PM
$1/$2 PM

Ivanapolis
05-19-2005, 04:51 PM
</font><blockquote><font class="small">In Antwort auf:</font><hr />

i-

how many people need to call a 3 bet in front of you preflop to make calling 2.5 bets correct with 93o?

thanks.
-t

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93o plays well against few opponents or heads up! I will fold it almost every time in multiway pots:

E.g.:
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB

or

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 2.25 BB

but:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold!!!</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (15.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

tiltaholic
05-19-2005, 05:01 PM
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i-

how many people need to call a 3 bet in front of you preflop to make calling 2.5 bets correct with 93o?

thanks.
-t

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93o plays well against few opponents or heads up! I will fold it almost every time in multiway pots:

E.g.:
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB

or

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 2.25 BB

but:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold!!!</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (15.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

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nevermind.
thanks.