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Maulik
05-19-2005, 12:04 AM
hard converter is'nt working well::

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t750)
UTG+1 (t750)
UTG+2 (t800)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t975)
CO (t800)
Button (t790)
SB (t785)
BB (t750)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.

Flop: (t22.50) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>

Turn: (t22.50) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>

River: (t22.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>

Final Pot:

#Game No : 2071037978
***** Hand History for Game 2071037978 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:12335242 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, May 19, 00:00:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 11740 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: MAUL9594 ( $800 )
Seat 1: Blackdan13 ( $750 )
Seat 9: mfc0812 ( $785 )
Seat 2: Pralinka ( $750 )
Seat 5: Grumpyaz ( $800 )
Seat 3: EASYONPAPA ( $800 )
Seat 10: xtremeguy77 ( $750 )
Seat 7: mopper1977 ( $800 )
Seat 8: brazosrower ( $790 )
Seat 6: KCASTI ( $975 )
Trny:12335242 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MAUL9594 [ Kc Kh ]
MAUL9594 raises [55].
KCASTI calls [55].
mopper1977 raises [400].
MAUL9594 is all-In [745]
mopper1977 is all-In [400]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Jh, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
mopper1977 wins 1680 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks.

jeffraider
05-19-2005, 12:07 AM
Hero fixes hand?

paperboyNC
05-19-2005, 12:17 AM
I forget the exact number, but in Harrington on Hold'em he says that something like 5-10% of the time you have kings, someone will have aces when you have kings. But more often they'll have AK, queens or jacks. In the long run you are better off pushing.

vinyard
05-19-2005, 01:41 AM
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I forget the exact number, but in Harrington on Hold'em he says that something like 5-10% of the time you have kings, someone will have aces when you have kings. But more often they'll have AK, queens or jacks. In the long run you are better off pushing.

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I have no idea if DH's numbers are right or not but his quote was 1 in 24 at a full table.

At any 8000 chip SnG, I would have to have a 100% lock read that a player could *only* reraise me with AA before I lay down KK pre-flop.

microbet
05-19-2005, 02:20 AM
The action screams AA, but KK makes me hard of hearing.

I could fold QQ here though.

ilya
05-19-2005, 03:26 AM
Easy push. I don't even think it smells like AA.

Maulik
05-19-2005, 03:36 AM
yeah, I think its an easy push too, I just hate running into aces so early in the tourney /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Nick B.
05-19-2005, 03:52 AM
I don't think this action would make me fold KK preflop.

The only time I can remember folding KK preflop was after an 8vpip limped utg in level 1, a couple limps and I raised KK, sb Pushed and the 8VPIP coldcalled the push.

liucipher
05-19-2005, 04:05 AM
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I just hate running into aces so early in the tourney

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But that's why you HAVE to call! Think about how little time you've invested /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I agree with HoH's line of reasoning. Personally I'd be more afraid if you had raised more (like 70-80, which is what I'd typically bet from UTG w/ KK) and got minraised by a late position player. People love minraising AA. Hell, I love minraising AA. And I don't know about $33s, but at an $11 I push QQ too and take my coinflip against AK. Unless you have a great read, QQ+ hands always feel like "if you got me beat, you got me beat" because the times you'll get called by schlock far outweight the monsters.

And if someone could help, what does vpip mean? It's the only acronym I can't figure out. It sounds like it has something to do with PokerTracker?

Maulik
05-19-2005, 04:11 AM
vpip is volunatarily put $ in pot. general stat term, it happens to be included in PT

Karak567
05-19-2005, 04:14 AM
I wouldn't even lay QQ down here.

Vetstadium
05-19-2005, 12:19 PM
In a 33 I would never fold KK preflop way too many people reraise with crap. I think in over 2000 sng's when I am all in preflop with kk ran into aces maybe ten at most and winning at least 3 of them lol with a set.

rickr
05-19-2005, 12:44 PM
&lt;sarcasm&gt; Fold. Any time someone shows strength like that, it should be obvious to lay it down. Too early in a tournament to risk your chips. At least that's what I've been told. &lt;/sarcasm&gt;

OR

&lt;sarcasm&gt;You should have raised less, keeping the pot small, so you could get away from it.&lt;/sarcasm&gt;

OR

&lt;sarcasm&gt;You should have raised more so AJ would lay down. What were you thinking?&lt;/sarcasm&gt;

OR

&lt;sarcasm&gt;You never want to raise your premium hands. Limp and trap. Yea that's the ticket.&lt;/sarcasm&gt;

OR

PUSH and fire up another game if you get busted out. KK will lose but it will win often enough at these levels to make it a +ev play.

Later,
Rick

Moonsugar
05-19-2005, 01:53 PM
You have a question, or is this just a bad beat post?