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bosoxfan
05-19-2005, 12:02 AM
I saw the flop and paniced.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (18 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero folds, MP1 calls.

River: (14 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB
ClaytonN
05-19-2005, 12:03 AM
Bet/fold the flop. You need to get one bet in there.
Buck_65
05-19-2005, 12:07 AM
Definitely bet the flop and fold to a raise. If you're just called, reevaluate on the turn but probably bet again.
aK13
05-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Bet flop. Folding to a raise is bad, IMO.
dozer
05-19-2005, 12:23 AM
If you bet the flop the pot will be huge by the time it's back to you, big enough to chase your 2 outer to try and make a set.

I would bet/call and fold the turn unimproved.
fire_fly
05-19-2005, 12:35 AM
grunching....

Ok, if the pot wasn't so huge, this would be an EASY fold on the flop. With that much pf action, you can be pretty damn sure you are beat right now.

With the pot giving you 19 to 1 though, and only 1 person behind you, you can call the flop (2 outs for JJ, and like .75 outs for the weakass backdoor strait, you can barely squeak by with a call here) and just pray the guy behind you doesn't raise (hopefully he is passive? reads?)

Turn. MP3 (as long as not a maniac) has you beat. 2 ppl limped to him pf, and he raised. He could have KQ A freaking anything (J, 10s, K, Q seeing why you should fold yet?) pocket queens, pocket kings, pocket aces, blah blah blah.

lol, just took another look at the hand and saw that you DID fold turn Nh then /images/graemlins/smile.gif

12 to 1 to you. FOLD

Ok, just read what you guys said, and with 4 ppl in capped pf, you guys are betting this flop? That sounds crazy to me. What do you think ppl are capping with? Pocket 10s? 2 5? Betting this flop is just dumb in my oppinion. Calling you could get away with, but betting out is just BEGGING to be raised (and therefore paying too much to draw.)
jaxUp
05-19-2005, 12:38 AM
I love it. There's no way you're ahead, but you have odds to chase until the turn. This was great. I hat betting the flop when you're 100% behind.
Buckmulligan
05-19-2005, 12:45 AM
Nice, disciplined hand.
Entity
05-19-2005, 12:52 AM
I see no reason to bet this flop.

Nice hand.
istewart
05-19-2005, 01:08 AM
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Why's everyone saying to bet this flop? You get raised nearly everytime and you have to call, drawing slim.
ArturiusX
05-19-2005, 01:11 AM
I like it all. Betting this flop is suicide and a prety poor option.