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KeysrSoze
05-17-2005, 04:08 PM
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Preflop: KeysrSoze is MP2 with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif,7/images/graemlins/club.gif . CO posts a blind of $0.25. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, KeysrSoze calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">KeysrSoze bets</font>, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">KeysrSoze bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (5 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks. KeysrSoze ???

Final Pot: 5 BB

If I was paying more attention I would have raised pf with those posters in the pot, but forget that for now. Quad board river play will never be a big leak if wrong, I know, just interesting.
gharp
05-17-2005, 04:10 PM
I'd definitely check behind here.
GrunchCan
05-17-2005, 04:18 PM
I see no point in betting the river.

Let's talk about PFRing here. You know that if you PFR MP1 will call almost all the time. CO will probably call the majority of the time, too, as will others when they get the chance. Since PFRing won't get you HU or even close, I think it has less value. In this spot, I would have just called in an attempt to get the pot as multiway as possible.
KeysrSoze
05-17-2005, 04:25 PM
Hmm, get in cheap, ok
GrunchCan
05-17-2005, 04:27 PM
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Hmm, get in cheap, ok

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Not exactly. Limp becasue you want as many opponents as possible. If you raise, you encourage some opponents to fold who would have called 1. The fact that it costs less to encourage a multiway pot is a byproduct of the means, not an end.
scotty34
05-17-2005, 05:22 PM
Check behind. He is certainly not going to fold, and there is a good chance you are beaten now. Betting would just be spewing.
cfjr2
05-17-2005, 05:34 PM
Since everyone has 4 9's don't you split the pot - my assumption is there is no kicker with quad hand. Is this correct ?

I'm relatively new so sorry if this is a dumb question.
gharp
05-17-2005, 05:35 PM
You're making the best 5 card hand so the kicker does play. Anyone with an A is splitting/winning this pot.
GrunchCan
05-17-2005, 05:43 PM
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Since everyone has 4 9's don't you split the pot - my assumption is there is no kicker with quad hand. Is this correct ?

I'm relatively new so sorry if this is a dumb question.

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Kicker plays.
deception5
05-17-2005, 05:44 PM
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Since everyone has 4 9's don't you split the pot - my assumption is there is no kicker with quad hand. Is this correct ?

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The best 5-card hand wins so it comes down to the kicker. (quad-9's with an ace kicker would be the best hand, then a king, etc)
ClaytonN
05-17-2005, 05:46 PM
Hooray, your hand sucks. Check behind and watch him rake in the pot.
KeysrSoze
05-17-2005, 07:33 PM
OK, I checked, and it turned out MP1 had 5 4. Got a lot of laughs from the table, its not very often that 7 high takes the pot at this limit /images/graemlins/smile.gif. Would anyone bet this with a king (or even lower)? Like the questioner above, I bet alot of people don't know that kicker counts on this hand.
no1super2001
05-17-2005, 08:36 PM
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Since everyone has 4 9's don't you split the pot - my assumption is there is no kicker with quad hand. Is this correct ?

I'm relatively new so sorry if this is a dumb question.

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You are always playing the best 5 card hand. In this case, you would slit the pot if the other player has a 7 high. Likewise, bet or raise with an ace.
moot
05-17-2005, 08:43 PM
QUICK, QUICK! Someone else say how it's the best 5-card hand.