Turn question: bet or checkraise?

[Entity]

A flush draw (with a slim possibility of the case Ace) seems mightily likely for the loose-passive BB caught in the midst of all of our raising -- I can't see what else he'd be calling so many flop bets with (he hasn't been terrible, just a little on the loose-passive side). Given that, do we prefer betting over checkraising since it'll usually allow me to get 3 or 4 bets in with the added possibility of trapping a drawing hand?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero...

[krishanleong]

A flush draw is sticking around no matter what. I would checkraise the turn.

What happened on the river?

Krishan

[Entity]

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A flush draw is sticking around no matter what. I would checkraise the turn.

What happened on the river?

Krishan

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Right -- if BB is on a flush draw, he isn't folding, and I prefer betting the turn if that's the case (since Button has an Ace here and will raise always, letting me get in 3-bets at the least).

Since I'm reasonably sure Button will raise a bet but I'm not sure that he'll 3-bet a checkraise, I went for the bet. Button was all-in after the turn was capped so the river action was null.

Rob

[krishanleong]

If he has an 8 or a pp he might call 1 twice if you cr.

Krishan

[wrto4556]

It's more likely he's on a flush draw given we can see 3 of the 4 eights.

He's calling 2 cold with an A or a flush draw. Betting is dope.

[krishanleong]

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He's calling 2 cold with an A or a flush draw. Betting is dope.

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Really? So what did he fold on the turn?

Krishan

[wrto4556]

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He's calling 2 cold with an A or a flush draw. Betting is dope.

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Really? So what did he fold on the turn?

Krishan

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Probably not an A or a flush draw...

[Isura]

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It's more likely he's on a flush draw given we can see 3 of the 4 eights.

He's calling 2 cold with an A or a flush draw. Betting is dope.

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I think BB could have a pocket pair about just as often as an Ace or flush draw combined. I think we need to know to what degree does BB's looseness goes. If he's giving up on hands like 99-TT for 2 cold, then it might be better to check-raise. Also, if button is overplaying something like KK-JJ he might not raise the turn, but will call a check-raise and a river bet. I'd probably check-raise here.

[mungpo]

This is great position for you on the turn. You can probably trap BB for a bet or two by check-raising the Button.

[27offsooot]

bet-three bet

[MAxx]

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bet-three bet

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I vote bet 3 bet as well. Flushy drawer wont fold. Ace wont fold. I think leading turn is the best possible way to get this turn capped 3ways.

[stir]

Lots of disagreement on this one. I go for bet 3 bet.