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11t
05-17-2005, 12:33 PM
No reads due to multi tabling

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP2 (t1412)
CO (t755)
Button (t950)
SB (t3029)
BB (t2605)
UTG (t1124)
Hero (t1745)
MP1 (t1880)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1099</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1720</font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1112)
BB (t1130)
UTG (t250)
MP1 (t3304)
MP2 (t2205)
Hero (t4019)
Button (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t225 (All-In), <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3994</font>

rickr
05-17-2005, 01:44 PM
Hand 1: Unless UTG has been doing something really crazy, I would say this one is -EV. What would he push with here? He really shouldn't be in panic mode yet. Ran through Eastbay's program using the tight (66+, ATs+, AJo+) which seems reasonable, it shows it negative. You have to loosen up UTG to any PP, A9s+,ATo,KJs,KQo to make this a +ev play. You would need a read to know if you think he would push all these.

Hand 2: Push. It's a push even if it was folded to you.

Later,
Rick

jgunnip
05-17-2005, 03:07 PM
Hand 1 I let go. Hand I'm pushing.

In hand 1 without any reads I'm giving UTG credit for being at least a semi-decent player who knows you need stronger hands to move in with in early position than in late position. You've still got a decent stack size at the table and are in good shape. You'll be down to around 1300 if you fold the next cycle, but I suspect there's going to be a lot of action with hald the table's stacks below 4BB.

chopchoi
05-17-2005, 03:22 PM
Hand 1 is O.K. UTG is shortstacked, and knows that if he has to fold his blinds, he'll be crippled. Now is the time for him to make a move. I think he'd push any ace here, so I play.

Hand 2 is an obvious push.

Newt_Buggs
05-17-2005, 03:45 PM
both are easy pushes, or atleast at the $30s/$50s on party. If UTG is competant on hand 1 he could be pushing a very wide range of hands trying to avoid losing his future FE from taking a blind. I don't need eastbays program to see that pushing this would be easy if UTG had folded, and I think that utg is much more likely to be donating to you here than to have you crushed