50-100 shorthanded qq hand.

[evanski]

Same table, 10 hands later or so. I have QQ in the BB. 6 handed. CO openlimps. Button raises to 450. I call. CO limp-reraises to 1900 or so. Button calls. Your action? I think I really butchered this one, but well see.

-Evan

Edit: Ive seen CO slowplay big pairs preflop repeatedly, smoothcalling others raises.

[etizzle]

With the button calling I think you need to snatch up this 5k right here.

If you make it 8k to go, however, I think you are only going to get called by a better hand. Sort of a tough spot.

How much does CO have behind?

[evanski]

Sorry, all stacks are ~10k.

[spoohunter]

This is a really tough hand, because he's limp reraising from the cutoff. With $4700 in the pot and it's only $1500 to call, you only have to make $6000 ish for this play to be +EV and that's a pot sized be.

I see a flop and play some poker, but what you do when 229 comes on the flop I do not know.

[hotdog da 2rd]

you should call here even if you supect he has rockets. the key is button player, who's gona help you define villain's hand.

[TheMainEvent]

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Do you care to elaborate on this at all?

[evanski]

bump.

[creedofhubris]

Smooth call preflop. (You've got odds to play for set value, and you can see how both players react to the flop.)

Plan to check-raise allin on a baby flop. Plan to fold if ace or king flops. If button moves in on a baby flop, plan to do some agonized handwringing. But probably fold.

Plan to chuckle maniacally and smooth-call if a queen flops.

[Rotating Rabbit]

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I like your play.

[lennytheduck]

For me this is 50/50 between folding preflop and calling to play for set value.
As far as getting odds to call in order to make a set...you're paying 1450 into a pot of 4250 which is slightly less than 3:1. Doesn't sound overly lucrative to me. Obviously the implied odds are there, but I think there's better spots to put in 1/5 of your stack.
As far as check raising all-in on a baby flop...this just seems suicidal to me. Clearly at least one of these two have you beat preflop, I don't really see anyone folding AA or maybe not even KK on a 742 flop after someone called 1450 more. I think you have to dump unless you spike a queen, and that's if you see the flop at all.

[creedofhubris]

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For me this is 50/50 between folding preflop and calling to play for set value.
As far as getting odds to call in order to make a set...you're paying 1450 into a pot of 4250 which is slightly less than 3:1. Doesn't sound overly lucrative to me. Obviously the implied odds are there, but I think there's better spots to put in 1/5 of your stack.
As far as check raising all-in on a baby flop...this just seems suicidal to me. Clearly at least one of these two have you beat preflop, I don't really see anyone folding AA or maybe not even KK on a 742 flop after someone called 1450 more. I think you have to dump unless you spike a queen, and that's if you see the flop at all.

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Shorthanded against superaggressive players, you can't be sure queens aren't boss. We're not raising baby flops to try to push people off KK-AA, we're raising because we think we're ahead.

Disclaimer: I don't play this high.

[Matt Flynn]

6-handed I call.