Preflop, JJ, 3 bets to you

[chopchoi]

In a typical .50/$1 game (not too passive, not too aggressive) an average player raises from UTG, and another average player 3 bets from MP. You have JJ. Call, fold, or cap?

[Duerig]

CAP IT BIOTCH

[Sykes]

Depends. I'd either fold or cap. I have folded TT to a 3 bet before, and JJ isn't that much better so I'd probably fold.

[ArturiusX]

Cap it.

[tmoore44]

If it's two fairly tight solid player's, you might consider folding, but against 0.50/1.00 "average" player's I would cap it. Unless you can put them on QQ, KK, AA I think you have to cap. It's quite possible you could be up against AKo, AKs, or AQ. Plus even if they do have a higher pocket pair if you happen to spike your J, you're on your way to a huge payoff.

Plus by capping you could buy yourself a free card on the flop if you choose.

[Sykes]

Do you guys fold or cap with TT when it's 3 bets to you.

[cockandbull]

I'd call (although i dont think folding is too bad an option) and see what happens...if utg caps then you know where you stand and you can probably get a bet and a raise on the J high flop your about to hit.

[gharp]

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Do you guys fold or cap with TT when it's 3 bets to you.

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TT is about where I draw the line. With JJ I'm capping, but with TT it depends a lot on the number of people who are coming along and, of course, reads.

[JDErickson]

I usually don't cap with JJ unless players are maniacs.

I'm calling here and seing what develops with EP and the flop.

[benkath1]

Cap

Man I hope I get this right.

Edit: whew!

[DMBFan23]

dynasty once wrote that this was an easy fold. I tend to agree

EDIT: assuming we're on the button here

[JDErickson]

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With JJ I'm capping

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What hands will normally 3 bet PF?

AA-JJ, AKs AKo, AQs. You are about in the middle of this range. For me this makes this a call.

[Entity]

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dynasty once wrote that this was an easy fold. I tend to agree

EDIT: assuming we're on the button here

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It really depends on the game. In a typical .50/$1 online game, it's a call on the button. I'd fold in a typical $1/2 game.

Rob

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Cap, for all the times you'll see TT and 99, or AK and AQ sharing overcards it is worth it.

[bigalt]

Does anyone have any hands or stats to dig up showing what happens when they cap or call 3 bets cold here? I'm folding but only because I love following charts.

What do you guys do with AK in this situation? Suited and not?

[matt42s]

FWIW - assuming you credit the hands
equity (%)
Hand 1: 28.8408 % { JdJc }
Hand 2: 29.6799 % { AA-TT, AKs-AJs, KQs, AKo-AQo }
Hand 3: 41.4793 % { AA-JJ, AKs-AQs, AKo }

pot=6.5sb fold costs 1.82sb call costs 3sb

It gets a bit better if you have a loose read on both of them - but fold still costs 2.21sb ie. less than a call
equity (%)
Hand 1: 34.0843 % { JhJc }
Hand 2: 26.6197 % { AA-99, AKs-A9s, KQs-KJs, AKo-AJo, KQo }
Hand 3: 39.2960 % { AA-JJ, AKs-AJs, KQs, AKo-AQo }

Can anyone comment whether I'm using pokerstove properly?

[Dieter01]

Good thread about JJ, although from the SB this time. Check it out... (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=&Number=301785&page=&view= &sb=5&o=&fpart=all)

[FlopMe]

I always fold JJ to a 3-bet, but everybody disagrees with me in the following thread:

Two JJ hands (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2295015&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&vc=1)