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beeyjay
05-16-2005, 09:05 PM
UTG has made that 2BB raise before once or twice. I have been incredibly passive compared to normal as at least 1 of the stacks to my left has been pretty short the whole time and with them definitly calling and me wanting them around I've been chillin. The SB is real tight fold into the money type.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t3120)
Hero (t3495)
SB (t1945)
BB (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif. UTG Raises to 800, Hero ???

bluefeet
05-16-2005, 09:06 PM
folds. am i missing somethiing?

ZebraAss
05-16-2005, 09:08 PM
Push?

Just fold. Dont be silly.

zaphod
05-16-2005, 09:09 PM
Even though 84 off is a pretty solid hand 4 handed, i will let this one go. Fold.

gasgod
05-16-2005, 09:09 PM
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folds. am i missing somethiing?

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GG

Benfica
05-16-2005, 09:15 PM
Just fold...you have nothing to prove, and a lot to lose.

beeyjay
05-16-2005, 09:17 PM
fine i admit it i pushed. got knocked down to 400 when he flipped over JJ. Then came back to win the thing. bwhahah. But still I think he lays this down almost enough to make it a push. But the sentiment here is obviously different so maybe this is a big leak in my game. thanks.

lorinda
05-16-2005, 09:18 PM
folds. am i missing somethiing?

Yes.

UTG does not want to tangle with the big stack, and we have the big stack AND the image to take this pot from him.
It's also likely UTG doesn't have a great deal.

If Gigabet posted this and said he went all in and UTG folded, what would you think of the play?

That all being said, I probably fold it.

Lori

beeyjay
05-16-2005, 09:23 PM
Thanks Lorinda. That answer makes me feel like at least I'm not nuts and looking back I guess I probably should have folded.

microbet
05-16-2005, 09:30 PM
Probably not terrible, but it would improve if you had say 78 and had UTG covered by 1000.

Gigabet would probably have more FE in this situation with the higher stakes.

bluefeet
05-16-2005, 09:33 PM
My answer and question were short, but certainly not meant to be condescending. More a reflection of my own fault in jumping to quick to what I think to be true. I'm in no position to make anyone look foolish for asking a question (sorry if that's the way you took it). I benefit personally, one way or another, from every single HH posted on this forum. Next time I'll be a little more open minded in my response /images/graemlins/grin.gif

lorinda
05-16-2005, 09:41 PM
My answer and question were short, but certainly not meant to be condescending

The same goes for me. I just wanted to point out there was some more depth to the hand than there originally seemed.

If this was a $5 player with one post, I might jump in and say they were nuts /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Lori