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irishpint
05-16-2005, 05:54 PM
No reads at the time, by now i know he's about a 40/5 through 50 hands. He is pretty agressive - likes to gamble.

with no draws my only concern was a set of a better ace. should i have capped the flop, fold anywhere or raise the river? thanks

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (14.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

scotty34
05-16-2005, 05:58 PM
I would have played it exactly the same.

aK13
05-16-2005, 06:01 PM
His 3bet preflop and on the flop looks as if you're behind a bigger ace, but I think you need to call this down.

k000k
05-16-2005, 06:03 PM
Ya, I like it too. He DID limp-reraise PF after all, and you have a medium kicker. 40/5, he doesn't raise with many hands, so those few hands will be good ones. 5%PFR'ers aren't raising AJ and worse aces, and it looks like he has definately has that last ace.

droolie
05-16-2005, 06:11 PM
The limp reraise is always a weird move but I rarely see it without the guy having AA, KK, QQ or some random suited connector. We know he doesn't have AA so in this case I'm going with the suited connector. I raise the river and call a 3-bet. If he had 77, 66 or AK or AQ I'd be quite surprised and put a note on him.

snapfc01
05-16-2005, 06:21 PM
does everyone raise preflop with AJo?

scotty34
05-16-2005, 06:24 PM
Depending on the game conditions, my position, and what the action is to me, but yes, I do often. I think most people on this board will almost always open-raise AJo.

droolie
05-16-2005, 06:25 PM
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does everyone raise preflop with AJo?

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No is the obvious answer. However most good players do.

TripleH68
05-16-2005, 06:25 PM
I play it the same. You have a 3rd party coming along passively, hopefully on a draw.

snapfc01
05-16-2005, 06:26 PM
i mean... CO or button it's a raise for sure... but i usually don't mp... maybe i should try this

scotty34
05-16-2005, 06:34 PM
In a typical to loose game which is what most games are, I will raise it UTG every time. In a tighter game I will fold it sometimes, limp it sometimes, and raise it sometimes.

aK13
05-16-2005, 08:24 PM
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In a typical to loose game which is what most games are, I will raise it UTG every time. In a tighter game I will fold it sometimes, limp it sometimes, and raise it sometimes.

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For some reason, I like to take the opposite approach, and I like to raise these marginal UTG hands (AJo and ATo, for example) in tighter games as well. The reasoning is that those who cold call my raise are usually the looser/fishier players at the table, and I'm likely to have the best hand against them, and would like to play as many hands against them as possible. If I get 3bet by a tighter player, then I don't fall in love with my hand and will drop it pretty easily. I think that the money I make playing these hands against loose opponents outweighs the times a tighter player will dominate me. Also, adding a hand or two here shouldn't throw off the tight players read that I am also a TAG. But maybe I'm wrong. Anybody else give their thoughts?

silkyslim
05-16-2005, 08:43 PM
i want players with AQo, KQ, KJ, JQ and medium pockets to fold when i have AJo so I am definately raising UTG. I also fold it to a raise in front of me almost always.

snapfc01
05-17-2005, 03:48 PM
you really think players at micro limit drop AQ to a single raise?

deception5
05-17-2005, 04:15 PM
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i want players with AQo, KQ, KJ, JQ and medium pockets to fold when i have AJo so I am definately raising UTG.

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I agree that it's a raise but I disagree that you want KJ or QJ to fold here.

GrunchCan
05-17-2005, 04:20 PM
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does everyone raise preflop with AJo?

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Yes, except from the blinds.

silkyslim
05-17-2005, 04:21 PM
not supposed to cold call AQo but i guess they still do. Also you are right i dont want kj or qj to fold dont remember why i included those. still raising though

GrunchCan
05-17-2005, 04:24 PM
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not supposed to cold call AQo but i guess they still do.

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