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punter11235
05-16-2005, 12:42 PM
Hello all,

There is a problem which bothers me recently. Here is the situation, sb raise preflop, you call. After the flop there is a high card (A or K) and you have 2pairs, set. What is the best milking sequence here ?
My thoughts are, that bet and reraise on the flop make the most money.. here I tried diffrent sequence :


Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 ($239.75)
CO ($129.00)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($329.25)</font>
SB ($165.50)
BB ($213.00)
UTG ($322.75)
UTG+1 ($98.00)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($117.75)</font>
MP1 ($364.50)
MP2 ($516.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($13) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($37) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button calls $18.

River: ($97) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Button calls $30.

Final Pot: $157

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jc Kc (two pair, kings and jacks).
Button has Ah As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $157. </font>

Was it possible to milk more here ?

Best wishes,
punter11235

LetYouDown
05-16-2005, 12:51 PM
Yes, by leading the flop stronger. I'm going to fast play this every single time. I'd lead hard as well. If you lead for slightly more than the pot, most times villain is going to put you on something like A-K and raise you pretty hard.

I don't really see this as a "milking" hand. Your hand is still vulnerable to a higher two pair. Lead the flop hard, call his raise and push hard on the turn if it's innocent enough.