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sweetjazz
05-16-2005, 11:26 AM
Well, I managed to put several bets in and not see a showdown. I hate when I do that. Should I bet/fold or check/call the river here instead?

Read on villain: He's way too loose preflop and he's a bit aggressive. I have yet to catch him making a complete donk bet, but I only had about 30-40 hands on him at the time. His stats are 43/8/1.5 with a WTSD of 28% after 53 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (7 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB
ghostwriter
05-16-2005, 11:50 AM
I don't think you can fold after checking the river.
How about bet the river and fold to a raise?
sweetjazz
05-16-2005, 12:01 PM
That's kind of what I am thinking, though I don't know whether check/call will induce bluffs and make it a better line than bet/fold.

At the lower limits, I felt that most loose opponents were passive enough that I could check and fold to a bet here, and they would often check behind even with a mid- to low- heart here.

But I don't know if that's the case here. This opponent seemed aggressive enough, and he might not have known much about pot odds or domination, but he probably can tell that a bet/bet/check line shows weakness.
Piiop
05-16-2005, 12:24 PM
I don't think I'd raise pf out of the SB.
jb9
05-16-2005, 01:19 PM
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I don't think I'd raise pf out of the SB.

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I agree with that (and if I didn't raise preflop, I'd be inclined to either check/fold or check/raise the flop).

I don't know about the river. Bet/fold "feels" better than check/fold or check/call, but I'm having trouble thinking of what hands you beat that called your flop and turn bets (K8?, K7?)...
Klepton
05-16-2005, 04:24 PM
this preflop raise is awesome

i would have lead the river and folded to a raise