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UseThePeenEnd
05-16-2005, 11:15 AM
I had data enough on both to know they were both very loose, very aggressive LA's; the first passive postflop, the second ~2.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls $1.53 (All-In).

Flop: (16.76 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (8.38 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (11.38 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 11.38 BB

And I usually think I'm too straightforward. Not one, but TWO failed checkraises. Fire when ready.


Here versus a field of LPP's. UTG is a current favorite on the buddy list, 60/1/.5 and sees 42% of showdowns.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (10.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

I check a lot of rivers with hands that are probably good to elicit a bluff / lose the minimum, but not when there's this little likelihood I am beat. I can only suppose I forgot I was closing the action (doh- I'm working up to 3 tables nowadays)

imported_PP123
05-16-2005, 11:27 AM
Hand 1
I would have bet the flop hoping that CO helps me protect my hand.

Hand 2
Value bet the river.

Johnny Richter
05-16-2005, 11:30 AM
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Hand 2
Value bet the river.

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damaniac
05-16-2005, 11:31 AM
There's probably no point in trying to check-raise the river. You have one person left to act behind you, the board hasn't improved anyone and the 8 isn't a terribly scary card for any hand you might be holding, except for JT. Just bet and be done with it.

In hand 2, I initially thought this should be an easy value bet. What I can't decide is what hands BB will cold-call with on the flop. Is he more likely to have a 6 and an OESD, or a pair? Maybe a 9 for a gutshot, which paired him up. I'm not as concerned about the flush or the Q. I think I like betting and folding to a c/r, as there might be a lot of pair an LP has here that will call.

UseThePeenEnd
05-16-2005, 11:40 AM
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Hand 1
I would have bet the flop hoping that CO helps me protect my hand.

Hand 2
Value bet the river.


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1: OK, that was very likely to occur, and I would have gotten in a bet. The attempted c/r on the river was stupid in view of the previous action and the board?

2: Yes.

UseThePeenEnd
05-16-2005, 12:11 PM
1:
UTG+2 has A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
CO has Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
SB has K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and MHIG. Need to work harder on making my boat outs 3-suit the board.

2:
he has 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif and MHIG. buddy list gold.

Always nice to win after botching the hand, provided I learn something.