View Full Version : $22: Busted steal, but getting good odds now with the action closed
spentrent
05-16-2005, 03:45 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
BB (t1125)
UTG (t1495)
MP (t2170)
CO (t1020)
Hero (t1330)
SB (t860)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, SB raises all-in to 810, <font color="#666666">BB folds</font>, Hero ???
Getting better than 2 to 1 to call here (1210 to 510). I know you guys favor a call only if it costs less than 1/3 of your stack, but can I pass up this equity with 6 players still in the game?
beeyjay
05-16-2005, 03:50 AM
without a read that dude is crazy I would fold. You still have 10 bb left. If you call I would assume at best youre basically a coinflip and at worst youre hardcore dominated for 2/3s of your stack
Well it's read-dependent. If this guy would only play back at you with pairs, medium+ Aces...obviously you fold. If his range is a little wider, I think you should probably still fold. If his range is a lot wider (like, pairs, aces, all broadway, some smaller kings)...well then call!
spentrent
05-16-2005, 03:52 AM
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without a read that dude is crazy I would fold. You still have 10 bb left. If you call I would assume at best youre basically a coinflip and at worst youre hardcore dominated for 2/3s of your stack
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I think you're right that it's a coin-flip most of the time.
How can I pass up a ~50% shot getting better than 2 to 1 from the pot?
Newt_Buggs
05-16-2005, 04:31 AM
how is this going to be a coinflip?
spentrent
05-16-2005, 04:36 AM
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how is this going to be a coinflip?
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Let's say that SB was putting his chips in a lot of pots. I could imagine him making this play with K8+|JT+.
shejk
05-16-2005, 04:46 AM
That's silly. Sure, if this guy is doing this with JT this is a good call.
Now, if we run this in pokerstove A8+, A6s+, 55+, KQ, KQs, you have 35% equity. A nice +ev call in other words, even without making up an unreasonable range.
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That's silly. Sure, if this guy is doing this with JT this is a good call.
Now, if we run this in pokerstove A8+, A6s+, 55+, KQ, KQs, you have 35% equity. A nice +ev call in other words, even without making up an unreasonable range.
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Yes but I think it's a mistake to look at the post-re-raise call independently. Before you ever make the initial raise to 300, you need to have decided what you think SB's (and BB's for that matter) re-raising range is, and whether you will call if he does re-raise.
If you decide that SB's re-raising range is the one you cite, and that you will call if he reraises, your equity from the times he re-raises is -26.
If you plan to fold, your equity from the times he re-raises is -36.
IMO a 10-chip difference is not worth the 8% chance of losing your folding equity and most of your stack.
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