Worst play yet at home game!!

[Balla2hot4u]

Local home game 10$ buy in usually 6 max quick tourney style games at least 2 nights a week..Last night was my worst outing ever! HIstory check on my game against my friends.. in about a total of 50 games played i have won at least 30 times and 2nd about 5-10 times! I am definately feared at the table by everyone accept one or 2 players who greatly respect my game but dont fear me. I generally dont like to blame losing on the cards and not catching hands.. I would never blame a loss on the cards ever.. but it didn't help to catch almost nothing while others were catching monsters. I found myself on tilt on one hand where someone preflop raised and i was furious.. lol and post flop bet into someone huge overbet and luckily he folded.. I found myself after the hand saying OUTLOUD.. "i cant believe i just did that" the most reckless play i have ever done and everyone knew it. they knew me to be aggressive and known that i can win with one chip in front of me.. but last night just wasn't the same. felt it as soon as i sat down.. for some reason i felt insecure about my game. Scared of losing and finding hands in front of me that i would never play/call just cause i felt i needed to win a hand to give myself a boost back into my game! Any suggestions of what to do before my next game to get my mind straight and go in there with the same mentality i have had ove the past couple of weeks.. I was always the one getting a game together.. Now after my early out in last nights performance i sense great confideence in a couple other players who want more action right away.. Looking for help so i dont go and lose my edge at the table.. thanks in advance
-Adam
i think in a way this may help my image to my friends as im not as good as they think i am and that way i am underestimated now and may get more action.. But i do want my respect that i have earned and keep that edge over the other players

[maryfield48]

Paragraphs are good things.

[Balla2hot4u]

lol sorry get fired up and dont correct my grammar!

[maryfield48]

It's not about your grammar. It's about the fact that long interrupted blocks of text are hard to read, and many potential posters will take one look and move on without reading the whole thing.

So you're depriving yourself of responses.

Of course, the bigger strike against you is that your post appears to be basically a bad beat story. That kind of thing is looked down upon around here.

[neotope]

Thanks for the Cliff Notes, now I don't have to struggle to read the post /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[faith]

well, it looks like you had a bad night...
If that upsets you, you need more tabletime or a new hobby. bad nights, weeks, months, will surely happen.

hmmm... what are your options?
a. post the next blind and play on...
b. keep cryin' on forums until someone says it wasn't your fault because u are a misunderstood pokergenius in disguise. (might make you feel good, but not exactly good for your roll)
c. try a new hobby like cross-stitch
d. swallow a bullet to prevent the weak poker gean from being passed on to another generatioon.

Bottom line: you lost- get over it- get used to it- it's not a big deal.

-faith

[KnightEnder]

How about bad beat stories when you are looking to find out if you made the right play, and not just whining?

And is Sklansky the moderator, "the" Sklansky?

KE

[maryfield48]

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How about bad beat stories when you are looking to find out if you made the right play, and not just whining?

And is Sklansky the moderator, "the" Sklansky?

KE

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Well the only way to really know what reaction a post will get is to post it. But for hand analysis, it's considered best to not post the result of the hand, just the variables up to the decision point, so as to avoid result-tainted responses. If you choose to post the result after receiving some analysis, that's up to you.

The moderator of these forums is Mat Sklansky, David ("The") Sklansky's son, I believe.

[EStreet20]

NO offense at all Balla but quite honestly I can tell by the post that you're not nearly as good as you think you are.

That being said I want to point out that I'm not talking [censored], just telling you that you fit the mold of every other WPT/WSOP fan that watches on TV and wins at some home tourneys then thinks he's really something special. Your "They know I can win with just one chip in front of me" line is what really makes that impression clear.

Also, the people you play with aren't idiots. The reason they're more confident is because you probably picked up a lot of your wins with aggression/flat out bluffing and people are catching on.


My advice to you if you want to reclaim your spot atop this homegame and win some money is simple. Read good poker books and study the game. Don't worry about courage and table image, etc because quite honestly it makes no difference in a game like the one you describe. Just look up solid poker strategy and apply it as best you can.

Good luck,
Matt

[Phill S]

i struggle to believe to outright win this tourney 60% of the time. what is it, heads up between you and your pet dog?

only way you win a full table so often is that they are idiots or your a genius.

i conclude you dont keep good records.

[SamIAm]

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i struggle to believe to outright win this tourney 60% of the time. what is it, heads up between you and your pet dog?

only way you win a full table so often is that they are idiots or your a genius.

i conclude you dont keep good records.

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When talking smack, please
-Proof your message.
-Learn how to use contractions.
-Capitalize something, ever.

-Sam

[Balla2hot4u]

Well i play a couple times a week with about 6 players max at the table and almost all of them are beginners far worse then me. When playing with the same players over and over u learn a lot about there play and can easily have a great win rate over them! I never said i was playing against the best players in the world which is why i am reaching out to play with other "better" players in my area to sharpen my game. These people i play with all bet exactly the same as one another and also bet the same amount all the time with certain hands. They are not to knowledgeable about betting amounts/pot odds/ betting for value etc. Matter of fact they actually make fun of me for using these techniques. They always laugh out loud and mimic me when i count the pot and bets to see if its the correct move to call and say "bla bla bla counting yoru outs again". They laugh but always end up losing. Table full of Maniacs! A couple are starting to become very interested in the knowledge i am getting from this site so i thank you for the experience here!

[dcasper70]

Here's some tips:
Stop counting pot size in front of them, do it in your head as play goes around. No need to key them into such simple advantages.
Don't tell them about this site.
Convince them to raise the stakes!
Congratulate them on good plays when they hit the 2-outer, eventually they'll pay for your next car....

[masse75]

This post conveys the image of a guy talking 500 mph and suddenly finding that he's winded. Hurts my eyes.

Stop worrying about image. You know how you get a feared image? Smart poker to where you crush people. Not maniac play.

Your play, [not] brilliant, in my opinion.

[Balla2hot4u]

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Here's some tips:
Stop counting pot size in front of them, do it in your head as play goes around. No need to key them into such simple advantages.
Don't tell them about this site.
Convince them to raise the stakes!
Congratulate them on good plays when they hit the 2-outer, eventually they'll pay for your next car....

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thank you for the first "real" mature advice that i was looking for from this site!

[dcasper70]

One more tip:

After they raise the stakes, make sure you invite me....

[Balla2hot4u]

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One more tip:

After they raise the stakes, make sure you invite me....

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haha

[EStreet20]

What's not mature and real about my advice?? Everything I told you was 100% serious. You can't win with one chip and saying stuff like that means you need to look into poker strategy and not the WPT broadcasts. Also, you even said the people you're playing with are interested in learning so I was right about the fact that they (for as bad as they were) are getting a little better. Proving you can count outs etc, gets less intimidating the more other people play so you can't rely on players "fearing you" to win, especially if you ever plan on jumping out of your home game to hit the casinos or play online. So like I said, study and work on your game. That's mature, serious advice.
Good luck,
Matt

[Balla2hot4u]

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What's not mature and real about my advice?? Everything I told you was 100% serious. You can't win with one chip and saying stuff like that means you need to look into poker strategy and not the WPT broadcasts. Also, you even said the people you're playing with are interested in learning so I was right about the fact that they (for as bad as they were) are getting a little better. Proving you can count outs etc, gets less intimidating the more other people play so you can't rely on players "fearing you" to win, especially if you ever plan on jumping out of your home game to hit the casinos or play online. So like I said, study and work on your game. That's mature, serious advice.
Good luck,
Matt

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sorry your advice was very well put and taken kindly and i appreciate it. didn't mean to offend u with my comment.. my comment was aimed towards others downgrading me and not offering suggestions and help. i understand that most online forums have hard asses that like to bust balls rather then inform or help someone.. so i just brush it off. i appreciate your advie
-Adam

[faith]

Balla...
Your posts seem as if you're looking for validation more than advice. You seem to miss comments with substance (not my previous comment mind you... other than the ante up and get over it remark) and love the fluff. That is fine, but if you want to improve and be able to sit with people that aren't 100% clueless, read a book. Matt said it and it still seems you missed it. Until you begin to grasp the concepts and actually understand and are able to apply them, you won't understand peoples' responses to posts. Posts with substance generally require a little perspective that new players with minimal tabletime lack, and thus glance over them (the posts)without understanding them.

It sounds like you've looked through a pokerbook. Take the time to read it (assuming it's one people recommend here)... play a little using the concepts... reread a few chapters... play some more... reread another book... play some more... read some chapters from both...

see a pattern? rinse and repeat

faith

[KungFuSandwich]

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Here's some tips:
Stop counting pot size in front of them, do it in your head as play goes around. No need to key them into such simple advantages.
Don't tell them about this site.
Convince them to raise the stakes!
Congratulate them on good plays when they hit the 2-outer, eventually they'll pay for your next car....

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thank you for the first "real" mature advice that i was looking for from this site!

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Sorry, But I find it hard to believe someone name Balla2hot4u is some super mature, humble and objective poker genius.

Yeah every forum has asses, but you are like the 1000th poster to come on here talking about how great they are, but they had a bad beat.

Ask a real question.

[TheCroShow]

my complaint/rant for the day, i am a home game superstar, online semi-pro, B&M noob...my vpip is maybe 5-10 lol lol lol and it's down to 3 of us. i'm on the sb with 45s, i had been folding for the longest time!! so i decided to get out of the kiddie pool and start makin some moves. blinds are 100/200, i raise it to 600, bb calls me! WTF HE MUST HAVE A MONSTER

flop: Tc8c4c

i'm thinking villain does not have a ten in his hand, so i make a half pot sized bet (600) i have 1200 left. villain puts me all in...WTF VILLAIN?? i make a crying call. villain shows Jc2c and i'm drawing dead...

as he is collecting thec hips he says "they were suited." EFF YOU MAN that is the lamest most fish-like thing ever