This is worth my whole stack, right?

[THATWACOKID]

Villian- 32/5 Went to SD:9 Won$SD:75

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button ($52)
SB ($185.3)
BB ($562.65)
Hero ($430.7)
UTG+1 ($438.1)
MP1 ($437)
MP2 ($448.8)
CO ($241.2)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4, MP2 calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($18) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $8</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $23</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $15.

Turn: ($64) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $59</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $344.70 (All-In), MP2 calls $253.70.

River: ($871.40) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $871.40


I was talking to a friend (a very good self taught player) about how he plays king high flushes. He said against the average player he doesn't like to play it as fast as I do. I am just wondering how some of you guys would have played this hand.

[etizzle]

its either a *really* good read

or all the chips in the middle


Although it may be closer than that, because a set/small flush would be very likely to reraise the flop. Plus the biggest flush he can have is the 9 high flush.

That said, I can't imagine getting away from it. At least you've left yourself an out! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Richie Rich]

This is a very easy call. Any typical 32/5 opponent would play 89s just as easily as A-x suited. In addition, he could very well be trying to "protect his set" or aggressively playing A /images/graemlins/spade.gif.

Besides, if you aren't playing K /images/graemlins/spade.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif for flush value, then you shouldn't be paying to see a flop with that hand in the first place.

[THATWACOKID]

I thought I would try to bring this post back to life before I go to bed. The fact that he is a rock is what makes this difficult to me.

[Poker879]

No I think this is an awful call, especially with the fact that he is a rock. No rock is going to push with a 9 high flush... at best, especially if he has any respect for you and the fact that you came in UTG. Even if he isn't a rock, most people who are going to push at all with a 9 high flush as opposed to calling it down are going to do it on the flop as opposed to giving a free card. I think this is a 100% fold... especially at a full ring game as opposed to short handed.

[DaveduFresne]

You're joking right?

[ZimbuTheMonkey]

I would go all-in and if I lost, I would punch my desk and curse fate for giving me such a horrible life... but then again, I tend to get overdramatic after losing...

[spoohunter]

This guy's a rock? I thought he was 32/5?

[Big_Jim]

Why do people get poker tracker and then not learn how to use it?

[snappo]

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This guy's a rock? I thought he was 32/5?

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Went to SD:9 Won$SD:75

[Loci]

If he's a "rock" what two spades can he be playing? He obviously could have A/x spades, but Rocks don't generally play A/x because they get into too much trouble post flop.
Call. If you're beat, it's still a EV+ play in the long run imo.

[LuvDemNutz]

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If he's a "rock" what two spades can he be playing? He obviously could have A/x spades, but Rocks don't generally play A/x because they get into too much trouble post flop.
Call. If you're beat, it's still a EV+ play in the long run imo.

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I think the point is he's loose preflop but he doesn't go to showdown without the nuts or near nuts.

A 32/5 player easily plays Axs.

Despite his stats, I think you have to go broke here since he could also have a set.

[meow_meow]

I don't think SD numbers are going to be very accurate, unless you have a sizeable sample against villain.

I don't know that I would, but I think you can fold here as long as you respect your opponent. All of the betting up to his turn raise screams flush for you and nut-flush for him. This, coupled with the K, Q, J and T being off the board, makes his having AXs much more likely.

Plus, you are getting less than 3:2 to put your whole stack in.

So, can't fault you for calling, pretty sure I would have, but a good case can be made for folding as well.

[Loci]

If that's the case then he could just as easily have suited connectors on the low side of it further validating the call.

[Poker879]

Results?

[Poker879]

I could see if Hero didn't also have the J, leaving that as a possibility for the villian, but since he has the K and the J, I just can't see calling here. Villian must realize Hero has a flush, and probably beats 9 high flush.

[THATWACOKID]

Villian had Ax spades.