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Fantam
05-15-2005, 10:27 AM
Just sat down and was dealt this first hand.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 19 BB

Comments appreciated and results to follow.

Zoelef
05-15-2005, 11:03 AM
I like every street. After the flop calls and BB waking up on the turn, I don't see how turn/river raises are going to force better hands (Ax, mostly) out or force disadvantageous draws (T9? 8x of spades?). Also, if you get 3-bet you're almost certainly screwed.

I believe KK UI would hold up here often enough to justify calling down.

istewart
05-15-2005, 11:08 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Hero is MP1 with K, K. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.

[/ QUOTE ]

This street is poorly played, though. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Aaron W.
05-15-2005, 11:20 AM
I might have folded on the turn. But the pot is big (15 BB) and you're closing the action, which makes it hard to let go. However, the bettor and two callers on the turn plus the two cold-calls on the flop make me feel like you're chasing too often.

Fantam
05-15-2005, 12:20 PM
Thankyou for your thoughts.

UTG showed Q /images/graemlins/heart.gifA /images/graemlins/heart.gif and took down the pot.
UTG+2 had A /images/graemlins/diamond.gifK /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Webster
05-15-2005, 12:40 PM
Fold the turn. There is always somebody with that freaking Ace. If you did not win the hand with your raise - I'm out! you have 3 people that are not concerned with your raise. Serious problem

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DMBFan23
05-15-2005, 01:12 PM
with no draws on the flop, I cannot imagine that you are ahead on the turn, especially with a new player waking up and betting into the 2 main aggressors so far.

calling down on the hopes that you will see 8x or JJ or something is not really prudent here

Escape
05-15-2005, 03:40 PM
I'd fold the turn UI.

parappa
05-15-2005, 03:59 PM
If this pot was something like 10BB, I'd fold this flop. Since the pot is bigger, I like just calling on the extremely thin set draw + implied odds. I definitely fold the turn. Someone's got an ace.