Would you fold JJ here?

[KSOT]

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SB and MP1 are absurd LAGs and UTG just arrived and is unknown.

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, Hero...?

[adsman]

I hate complete LAG's but that is a very coordinated board. I fold this.

[NateDog]

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Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB and MP1 are absurd LAGs and UTG just arrived and is unknown.

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, Hero...?

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.... would be much happier with the J /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[Jacob_Gilliam]

Hero's outta there.

[scotty34]

I would make the call. You are getting 11:1 immediate odds on your call. You have 3 outs to a gutshot, 2 outs to a set, and possibly even the best hand at the moment (though I doubt it). Admittedly some of your outs may not be clean. You also do have to be worried about it being 3-bet and capped behind you. I think I call, and see what the turn brings. It's very close, but with the implied odds, I think it may be worthwhile.

[TomBrooks]

I'll cold call that getting 10 to 1 every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Based on the gutshot (4outs) and set chances (2 outs), you only need 7:1 to call. Those outs are a little dirty as a heart could be a problem but I'll worry about that if it comes. If a T comes you just have to worry about KJ, but what are the odds someone would have that, especially since you account for two Jacks?
With only 4 outs your still good to call. Don't Worry, Be Happy.

Edit Notes: 1. Corrected the odds I originally quoted. 2. Upon further review, I raise the flop, hoping to get a free card on the turn. <font color="blue"> Now that's LAGtastic!</font> 3. You also might have the best hand here already. Folding is out of the question for me. You have to spend money to make money.

[ArturiusX]

I think most of our outs are dirty and dont even give us the nuts.

I fold.

[xenthebrain]

I'd fold. The J sets 4 to a straight on board and I couldn't get away then.

[trainslayer]

Glad I wasn’t in your shoes. I probably fold since I wouldn’t be closing the action w/the prospect of more such action on two more streets.

Either that or raise. If I stay in I want to see UTG’s reaction to a raise and probably a cap by SB. If SB caps and and UTG calls your probably tied to the pot and can’t get out now so I vote fold now.

[OrianasDaad]

Grunch:

I'd lay it down here. All your outs are tainted. Your gutshot draw is marred by the fact that you will split this pot occasionally.

[KSOT]

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<font color="white"> MP1 took a huge pot with pocket 10s... &gt;_&lt; </font>