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Eihli
05-14-2005, 10:35 PM
45 left, 27 pay, 7 pay well. Blinds 200/400. Ave stack 6k. I have 4.4k. Table has a few loose limpers but no maniacs. Big stack at the table is only 11k. Blinds each have about 3k. I'm UTG+2 with AJo. Folded to me and I raise to 1k. New guy at the table pushes for 2.4k more. Folded around to me and I am getting the chance to call 2.4k to win 5k. If I lose I'm down to 1k and most probably out of the tournament.

CardSharpCook
05-14-2005, 10:38 PM
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45 left, 27 pay, 7 pay well. Blinds 200/400. Ave stack 6k. I have 4.4k. Table has a few loose limpers but no maniacs. Big stack at the table is only 11k. Blinds each have about 3k. I'm UTG+2 with AJo. Folded to me and I raise to 1k. New guy at the table pushes for 2.4k more. Folded around to me and I am getting the chance to call 2.4k to win 5k. If I lose I'm down to 1k and most probably out of the tournament.

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rant, rave, curse, and call.

The worst you are looking at is that he has one of your cards covered making you a 3:1 dog. A lot of hands you are coin-flipping, and some you are even ahead of. I believe we can file this under "E" for "Easy Call".

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Eihli
05-14-2005, 10:40 PM
So folding was the wrong play? I guess that would explain why I decided to fold. God damn my weak-tight upbringing.

ansky451
05-14-2005, 10:45 PM
you have to win about 1/3 times for a call to be profitable. you are most likely either a 3-1 dog, or like a 5-4 dog. I think its close but i call.

CardSharpCook
05-14-2005, 10:49 PM
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you have to win about 1/3 times for a call to be profitable. you are most likely either a 3-1 dog, or like a 5-4 dog. I think its close but i call.

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They say I'm famous for putting my opponent on pricisely the range of hands that I beat, but seems like you might be doing the opposite. A lot of players are pushing any suited ace here, some players think AT is gold, others are pushing KQ, KJs. Sure, more often than not you are staring down the barrel of a PP or AK, but you are ahead here more than you think.

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bugstud
05-14-2005, 10:52 PM
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45 left, 27 pay, 7 pay well. Blinds 200/400. Ave stack 6k. I have 4.4k. Table has a few loose limpers but no maniacs. Big stack at the table is only 11k. Blinds each have about 3k. I'm UTG+2 with AJo. Folded to me and I raise to 1k. New guy at the table pushes for 2.4k more. Folded around to me and I am getting the chance to call 2.4k to win 5k. If I lose I'm down to 1k and most probably out of the tournament.

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so you raised with AJo why given this attitude?

push it in PF given your table dynamics

Superfluous Man
05-14-2005, 11:42 PM
Here's my suggestion:



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betgo
05-15-2005, 01:44 AM
I think you have to call with the pot odds.

I don't like the initial raise. You are short enough stack that you need to push, limp, or fold. I don't think you are getting the right odds to raise with this hand. I would just fold initially or maybe limp.

TheTimeIsUp
05-15-2005, 04:31 AM
Folding here is a big no-no. You are saying that you are playing this hand as 72o, a utg steal. Fold this pf if you don't call here.

betgo
05-15-2005, 08:53 AM
I think part of the problem was the raise was not good in the first place. There is too much chance you will be dominated with AJo in 3rd position with 11xBB. Once you put in a raise, you are pot committed and have to call a reraise, so it is almost like pushing. It is hard to fold AJ, but I think that is the correct play.

Eihli
05-15-2005, 10:19 AM
Do you mean folding preflop is a big no-no? Or folding after the 1k raise? Or do you think pushing is the best?

betgo
05-16-2005, 07:31 PM
You probably should have just folded preflop. However, once you raise then you have to call the reraise. You have too much invested and you may win with AJ. I'm not sure if a standard raise or a push is better, but the best move is to fold or maybe limp.