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deepsquat
05-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Villain is unknown, should i have called the turn c/r and fold the river UI? im lost

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero folds, MP3 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB
shadow29
05-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Getting 10:1 and possibly 11:1 on your call, you can't fold.
Nick Royale
05-13-2005, 09:35 PM
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Getting 10:1 and possibly 11:1 on your call, you can't fold.

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caggin
05-13-2005, 10:37 PM
Yes, call that c/r and fold riv UI. You've got 4 outs to the nuts (at the time) plus 2 outs to trip K's which would probably be good. Even with just the gutshot, you're getting correct odds to call.
Ginso
05-13-2005, 10:56 PM
[blind reply]

while i would be pretty sure i'm behind after seeing the c/r, with the odds you're getting - at least 10, in possibly 12 to 1 - i think you have to call the c/r.

After that we should be ready to fold if nothing happens on the river. though even then, the pot size might keep us in it for one bet, though its doubtful our kings would be good.
Buckmulligan
05-13-2005, 11:19 PM
call turn
cmwck
05-13-2005, 11:31 PM
You're getting 10:1 to call the turn c/r. I think folding is a mistake:
Against hand x you have y outs:

AK - 4 outs
AJ - 6 outs
A5 - 6 outs
K5 - 12 outs
J5 - 12 outs
KJ - 7 outs

Even if he has a set you still have 4 outs to a straight.
cmwck
05-13-2005, 11:36 PM
Question: If we call the turn, do we raise the river when he bets after we spike our king? Are we at least a 2:1 favorite after he bets?