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Akimka
05-13-2005, 08:01 AM
Reads
UTG+1 unknown but looks loose
Button is loose-passive (vpip 32)

What is proper flop play? What should my line for rest of hand?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero ???

chief444
05-13-2005, 08:25 AM
AK = 16 combinations.
TT = 6 combinations.
JJ = 1 combination.
Total = 23 combinations.

QQ = 3 combinations
KK/AA = 12 combinations
Total = 15 combinations.

Not sure if TT or AK always cap here OOP though. AQ may sometimes. And then throw in what I call the idiot factor that he may hold something you'd never expect to see. I can see throwing a raise in. If button cold-called I'd be folding the turn most of the time if UTG showed any for aggression. I can see an argument for just calling as well. I don't think you should let it go quite yet though.

Petteri
05-13-2005, 08:45 AM
In flop you should probably raise in order to get button folding. If you get reraised call and consider slowing down or folding.

Pot is 13 SB and it is not good play to fold to one flop bet if you do not have very good reads. Calling is certainly too timid play. So raise flop and see how it goes ahead. You could be behind, but do not give up yet.

If "scare" card comes on turn, then fold.