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Ulysses
05-12-2005, 12:53 AM
OK, I have dinner w/ Paluka in the East Village. After dinner, I have a couple of options.
Option 1: Walk a few blocks to alphabet city and meet up w/ two very cute girls who I've known for a while. They have called a couple of times to let me know where they are and as recently as last week they have both verified what great taste they have in men (ie: they both love me).
Option 2: Travel like 50+ blocks north (a pain in the ass + $$$) to meet up w/ two girls that I met this weekend. Both are quite annoying and stupid and when I hung out with them this weekend neither showed much interest and even after a lot of drinks, I was annoyed by their stupidity. But they are new and 21 and 23 and super hot.
So, of course I choose Option 2 and now here I am back at the hotel posting on 2+2.
daryn
05-12-2005, 12:54 AM
you are a brave man for posting this.
PokerGodess
05-12-2005, 12:57 AM
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... But they are new and 21 and 23 and super hot.
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How old are you ElD?
ThaSaltCracka
05-12-2005, 12:58 AM
did you masturbate before posting this?
Boris
05-12-2005, 01:00 AM
we've all been there done that. Nothing is quite as powerful as the allure of fresh, young poontang. call it the will 'o' the wisp (http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/folklore/will_o_the_wisp.html) effect.
daryn
05-12-2005, 01:00 AM
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... But they are new and 21 and 23 and super hot.
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How old are you ElD?
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dude, he is like, old.
bernie
05-12-2005, 01:03 AM
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Both are quite annoying and stupid and when I hung out with them this weekend neither showed much interest and even after a lot of drinks, I was annoyed by their stupidity
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Why again would you choose option 2? Especially if it's farther away and cost that much more money. Those gals are plan B or C. Definitely not Plan A. I'd go out with my buds before I made that trek. Though I might tell them where I'll be hanging out. If they don't show, big whoop.
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Philuva
05-12-2005, 01:04 AM
Follow my rule of never going north of 23rd st. and blunders like this one will be avoided next time.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 01:05 AM
Please note the title of the post, bernie. And also read boris' post.
bicyclekick
05-12-2005, 01:05 AM
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Both are quite annoying and stupid and when I hung out with them this weekend neither showed much interest and even after a lot of drinks, I was annoyed by their stupidity
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Why again would you choose option 2? Especially if it's farther away and cost that much more money. Those gals are plan B or C. Definitely not Plan A. I'd go out with my buds before I made that trek. Though I might tell them where I'll be hanging out. If they don't show, big whoop.
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What he said, except maybe the hang out with buds part. Really depends on a lot of factors.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 01:06 AM
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did you masturbate before posting this?
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No.
ThaSaltCracka
05-12-2005, 01:12 AM
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did you masturbate before posting this?
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No.
[/ QUOTE ]hmmm... that could be a bad beat.
nolanfan34
05-12-2005, 01:13 AM
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did you masturbate before posting this?
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No.
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Bah dum, dum. *rim shot*
TSC'll be here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress.
Ah - Reckless Youth! I know it well (or used to, a long time ago it was). Anyway, Old Man Zeno would have taken the right option. You know this to be true.
Well, to be honest; Old Man Zeno would never have this option any more but that's not the point.
Will the lesson stick?
Got a good book to read?
-Zeno
Willluck
05-12-2005, 01:25 AM
There has to be an escort service in your area. From what I understand you have quite the bankroll. So...use your imagination ElD.
Clarkmeister
05-12-2005, 01:27 AM
You made up for this blunder by raising the river dark and getting paid off last time I saw you.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 01:28 AM
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There has to be an escort service in your area. From what I understand you have quite the bankroll. So...use your imagination ElD.
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Not my bag.
Willluck
05-12-2005, 01:34 AM
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There has to be an escort service in your area. From what I understand you have quite the bankroll. So...use your imagination ElD.
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Not my bag.
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The young hotties were no better than hookers...and you didn't even get any.
That guy
05-12-2005, 01:37 AM
get off the internet and call the chicks in option #1 for a late night booty call
Blarg
05-12-2005, 01:40 AM
Sounds like El D wanted to keep both known quantities for himself, and was more willing to share the "maybes" than the sure things. Smart decision. Now he's just bummed he didn't have his cakes and eat her, too. Your basic guy stuff.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 01:43 AM
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get off the internet and call the chicks in option #1 for a late night booty call
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Thanks, very solid suggestion. Unfortunately, that's not an option with these girls. It's more of an, "OK, maybe we should go back and have some more drinks at home" thing.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 01:44 AM
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Sounds like El D wanted to keep both known quantities for himself, and was more willing to share the "maybes" than the sure things.
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Nothing like this entered into the equation.
tinga81
05-12-2005, 01:46 AM
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Option 2: Travel like 50+ blocks north (a pain in the ass + $$$) to meet up w/ two girls that I met this weekend. Both are quite annoying and stupid and when I hung out with them this weekend neither showed much interest and even after a lot of drinks, I was annoyed by their stupidity. But they are new and 21 and 23 and super hot.
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these girls weren't in Chicago by chance, were they? i met some similar broads last time I was down there not too long ago. the description is pretty damn close.
but then, a lot are ;/
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did you masturbate before posting this?
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but i've always wondered; there's that scene in Something about Mary, Ben Stiller jacks off before going out with Cameron Diaz.
that actually sounds like a good idea if the date is w/ a girl you:
1. like and really want something long term with.
2. might otherwise be nervous around b/c u really don't want to come off as a tool in front of (so of course, you probably will)
3. but still want to bang very hard, very fast.
does it work? is it actually a good idea?
pheasant tail (no 18)
05-12-2005, 01:50 AM
I know you see the error of your ways, but this isn't too close. There's better pizza in the E. Villiage. Girls w/ good tastes will buy you a slice. Gilrs with good tastes might deliver you a slice. And most importantly, girls w/ good taste have good taste.
BTW arent there plenty of annoying super hot 23 year olds in Cal that you can drive to go see? NY is always about nice walks when you can have them. The rest is hastles.
That guy
05-12-2005, 01:54 AM
well Diablo, it looks like you are then stuck hooking up with Paluka.
bernie
05-12-2005, 02:16 AM
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Sounds like El D wanted to keep both known quantities for himself, and was more willing to share the "maybes" than the sure things.
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Maybes? Look at what happened in option 2 the first time. Even after lots of drinks they showed no interest. Especially if they're annoying. They're backburnered/low priority after that. (which can actually make you more attractive to them for some estrogen related reason) Usually, the best chance of doing these types of girls is that first night when they are bombed and you're at their place. Not the 2nd night. No good signals were given the first night for any reason to skip option 1, imo.
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daryn
05-12-2005, 02:17 AM
hey, he took a shot. tough to pass up even the slightest chance at hot new ass.
bernie
05-12-2005, 02:22 AM
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Please note the title of the post, bernie.
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I don't know if I'd call it epic.
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And also read boris' post.
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After what you described happened the first night with them, sorry, I'll take option 1 easily. I learned that the hard way before. Maybe later when I don't have much going on I'll make some time for them.
You can always meet up with them at a club. Guys with chicks tend to be attractive to chicks. Especially if these chicks are as hot as you say. Use 'em.
Looks like you overcalled with a longshot when you should've folded and taken a different hand on this one.
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bernie
05-12-2005, 02:26 AM
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hey, he took a shot.
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Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. Im just saying I wouldn't have.
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tough to pass up even the slightest chance at hot new ass
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Uninteresed when they were drunk. They're annoying and stupid. You're annoyed by their stupidity. They can wait.
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theBruiser500
05-12-2005, 02:38 AM
it's only 2:30 AM, go out again and find another girl, you will impress everyone on 2+2 with your prowess if you do. i dare you.
NLSoldier
05-12-2005, 02:40 AM
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it's only 11:30 PM, go out again and find another girl, you will impress everyone on 2+2 with your prowess if you do. i dare you.
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FYP /images/graemlins/wink.gif
unless I missed something and el d is on the east coast....
edit-just remembered he mentions being in a hotel...diregard this post...
theBruiser500
05-12-2005, 02:44 AM
what does fyp mean
NLSoldier
05-12-2005, 02:46 AM
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what does fyp mean
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It means im an idiot and was trying to be funny.
Michael Davis
05-12-2005, 03:04 AM
You're being results-oriented. I think you played the hand well.
-Michael
Blarg
05-12-2005, 03:42 AM
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Sounds like El D wanted to keep both known quantities for himself, and was more willing to share the "maybes" than the sure things.
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Maybes? Look at what happened in option 2 the first time. Even after lots of drinks they showed no interest. Especially if they're annoying. They're backburnered/low priority after that. (which can actually make you more attractive to them for some estrogen related reason) Usually, the best chance of doing these types of girls is that first night when they are bombed and you're at their place. Not the 2nd night. No good signals were given the first night for any reason to skip option 1, imo.
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Just for selfish reasons. El D said they both were nuts for him, so why double date and share the wealth? Single date 'em yourself and take a flyer on the others with your buddy.
El D says that never crossed his mind, but ....
P.S. -- all girls are "maybes" if they're really cute or you're feeling horny. At least, when our brains are pickled by testosterone. We're not the most logical or realistic of creatures.
bernie
05-12-2005, 04:02 AM
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Just for selfish reasons. El D said they both were nuts for him, so why double date and share the wealth? Single date 'em yourself and take a flyer on the others with your buddy.
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That's the girls in option 1. Not option 2.
I agree. However, I might go and try to get a menage out of 'em. Since 'they both' have 'good taste', it might be possible.
No throwing scraps to the buds with those gals 'til you hook up, or they screw you over. Let the girls in option 2 get a train pulled on 'em by the buds.
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rmarotti
05-12-2005, 06:04 AM
Please die.
uw_madtown
05-12-2005, 06:33 AM
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You're being results-oriented. I think you played the hand well.
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He definitely had implied odds on the first set of chicks, but the pot odds on fresh ass are just too good to ignore. It really just comes down to which is more +EV.
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Follow my rule of never going north of 23rd st. and blunders like this one will be avoided next time.
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So, of course I choose Option 2 and now here I am back at the hotel posting on 2+2.
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You could have still gone back to the EV. It's not like people are going to bed at midnight.
was 3somepotential(option2)>3somepotential(option1)?
SuitedSixes
05-12-2005, 02:11 PM
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3. but still want to bang very hard, very fast.
does it work? is it actually a good idea?
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Never let her have the easy one.
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I know you see the error of your ways, but this isn't too close. There's better pizza in the E. Villiage. Girls w/ good tastes will buy you a slice. Gilrs with good tastes might deliver you a slice. And most importantly, girls w/ good slices taste good.
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my first and hopefully last FYP
Stupendous_Man
05-12-2005, 03:31 PM
Agree, epic blunder. You had drinks with them over the weekend and became annoyed by their stupidity. Don't think I could overcome being annoyed with their stupidity.
tdarko
05-12-2005, 03:45 PM
don't listen to the haters, everyone has done this...gone for the harder to get girls instead of the one's you know will be there if you fail.
i think the title should be called "Bold Move" cause i don't see it as a blunder, well unless you bang the easy girls /images/graemlins/wink.gif
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So, of course I choose Option 2 and now here I am back at the hotel posting on 2+2.
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Obviously an -EV decision.
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Option 1: Walk a few blocks to alphabet city and meet up w/ two very cute girls who I've known for a while. They have called a couple of times to let me know where they are and as recently as last week they have both verified what great taste they have in men (ie: they both love me).
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Obviously it has to be the mask.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 03:51 PM
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don't listen to the haters, everyone has done this...gone for the harder to get girls instead of the one's you know will be there if you fail.
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Thanks for the support. I think the real problem here was not that they were more of a challenge (which would indeed be a bold move, going for the gold instead of the easy silver), it was the fact that I did not like them and they did not like me!. Unfortunately, I managed to push all thoughts about how annoying and stupid they were to the very back of my mind while focusing on, uh, other traits.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 03:52 PM
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was 3somepotential(option2)>3somepotential(option1)?
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Well, I think there was a very, very minimal chance of this in either scenario. But the chance was probably slightly higher in option 2. Especially since they share a small apartment with one bed.
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don't listen to the haters, everyone has done this...gone for the harder to get girls instead of the one's you know will be there if you fail.
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Thanks for the support. I think the real problem here was not that they were more of a challenge (which would indeed be a bold move, going for the gold instead of the easy silver), it was the fact that I did not like them and they did not like me!. Unfortunately, I managed to push all thoughts about how annoying and stupid they were to the very back of my mind while focusing on, uh, other traits.
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So in other words, you let your judgement get clouded by T&A when if you stepped away from the table and thought about the hand you knew it was a clear fold but you made a crying call instead and wound up being a losing player that night.
As I said, -EV decision my friend, -EV decision. Perhaps you should drop down in limits to evaluate your skills and game selection.
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Well, I think there was a very, very minimal chance of this in either scenario. But the chance was probably slightly higher in option 2. Especially since they share a small apartment with one bed.
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Then you made the right choice. don't be so results oriented. muck it and get on with the next hand (which looks like suited aces)
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As I said, -EV decision my friend, -EV decision. Perhaps you should drop down in limits to evaluate your skills and game selection.
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In this scenario, since they were hot 21/23 year olds, does "drop down in limits" mean meh high school chicks or desparate for a man 30 somethings?
chaas4747
05-12-2005, 04:03 PM
El D are you even looking at this thread anymore?
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As I said, -EV decision my friend, -EV decision. Perhaps you should drop down in limits to evaluate your skills and game selection.
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In this scenario, since they were hot 21/23 year olds, does "drop down in limits" mean meh high school chicks or desparate for a man 30 somethings?
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Actually I think it would be the other way in the age range to decrease the chances of getting blown off and winding up back at the hotel posting on 2+2. Going down in the age range, he might wind up posting on 2+2 from jail with permission from Bubba who happens to have a fond interest in masked men. I'm sure they get bored there too and role play becomes significant, hate to see El Diablo in those shoes.
nolanfan34
05-12-2005, 04:14 PM
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was 3somepotential(option2)>3somepotential(option1)?
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Well, I think there was a very, very minimal chance of this in either scenario. But the chance was probably slightly higher in option 2. Especially since they share a small apartment with one bed.
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Wow. That read certainly should have been included in the initial post. All of the analysis is flawed otherwise.
Yesterday I had a burger, cheese fries, and an orange creamsicle float (ice cream replaced by frozen custard) at The Shake Shack.
Unless Paluka blew you in the bathroom I think I had the much better night.
bernie
05-12-2005, 05:44 PM
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was 3somepotential(option2)>3somepotential(option1)?
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Well, I think there was a very, very minimal chance of this in either scenario. But the chance was probably slightly higher in option 2. Especially since they share a small apartment with one bed.
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Wow. That read certainly should have been included in the initial post. All of the analysis is flawed otherwise.
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That read isn't consistent with:
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Both are quite annoying and stupid and when I hung out with them this weekend neither showed much interest and even after a lot of drinks,
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This is my main contention here. Even drunk, no interest.
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Paluka
05-12-2005, 05:46 PM
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Yesterday I had a burger, cheese fries, and an orange creamsicle float (ice cream replaced by frozen custard) at The Shake Shack.
Unless Paluka blew you in the bathroom I think I had the much better night.
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Thanks for the confidence in my skills.
bernie
05-12-2005, 05:48 PM
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So in other words, you let your judgement get clouded by T&A when if you stepped away from the table and thought about the hand you knew it was a clear fold but you made a crying call instead and wound up being a losing player that night.
As I said, -EV decision my friend, -EV decision. Perhaps you should drop down in limits to evaluate your skills and game selection.
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Exactly my thoughts.
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don't listen to the haters, everyone has done this...gone for the harder to get girls instead of the one's you know will be there if you fail.
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And I agree with this.
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RicktheRuler
05-12-2005, 05:51 PM
I agree.
Ray Zee
05-12-2005, 10:20 PM
you made the right choice as you can always go back for the other two. good thinking. but being not so bright you didnt take someone of slick tongue with you. next time invite boris or the sucker along to do the talking, then send them home.
Ulysses
05-12-2005, 11:48 PM
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you made the right choice as you can always go back for the other two. good thinking. but being not so bright you didnt take someone of slick tongue with you. next time invite boris or the sucker along to do the talking, then send them home.
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Kids, watch and learn. Ray Zee rules.
nolanfan34
05-13-2005, 12:00 AM
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you made the right choice as you can always go back for the other two. good thinking. but being not so bright you didnt take someone of slick tongue with you. next time invite boris or the sucker along to do the talking, then send them home.
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Kids, watch and learn. Ray Zee rules.
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Hmmm, midnight in NY and you're posting. I can't decide if you haven't gone for the drinks yet, or are already back. Trip report?
Ulysses
05-13-2005, 12:08 AM
That's next week.
KaneKungFu123
05-13-2005, 12:20 AM
Do you normally go out with two girls at a time? Almost everytime i've been in this scenerio the girls are totally annoaying, stupid, cock teases who arent likely going to split up so one of them can bang you. if one of them wanted to bang you, then the other one wouldnt show up. the chances of you getting a threesome with this type of combo is close to imposible barring that they arent from idaho and have never gotten drunk.
seriously, since ive been 13, it seems like 95% of the guys are chasing after 5% of the girls.
out of curiousity, did you pick up all the bills?
hahahahahahahaha
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OK, I have dinner w/ Paluka in the East Village. After dinner, I have a couple of options.
Option 1: Walk a few blocks to alphabet city and meet up w/ two very cute girls who I've known for a while. They have called a couple of times to let me know where they are and as recently as last week they have both verified what great taste they have in men (ie: they both love me).
Option 2: Travel like 50+ blocks north (a pain in the ass + $$$) to meet up w/ two girls that I met this weekend. Both are quite annoying and stupid and when I hung out with them this weekend neither showed much interest and even after a lot of drinks, I was annoyed by their stupidity. But they are new and 21 and 23 and super hot.
So, of course I choose Option 2 and now here I am back at the hotel posting on 2+2.
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bernie
05-13-2005, 12:50 AM
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you made the right choice as you can always go back for the other two. good thinking.
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I don't agree.
I ran this scenario by some buds a little while ago. Telling them basically the situation presented in the first post. It was, without a blink, a unanimous, 'option 1'.
But to each his own.
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