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PokerBob
05-12-2005, 12:30 AM
So, I'm too tight. I get it. Please tell me how you handle the hands below. Assume a typical Party 3/6 donkfest, with 2-3 limpers.

On the button:
ATo
KTo
QTo
K9o
Q9o
J9o
JTo
T9o
T9s
98s
97s
76s

On the CO:
ATo
KTo
QTo
K9o
Q9o
J9o
JTo
T9o
T9s
98s
97s
76s

DMBFan23
05-12-2005, 12:36 AM
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So, I'm too tight. I get it. Please tell me how you handle the hands below. Assume a typical Party 3/6 donkfest, with 2-3 limpers.

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On the button:
ATo - sometimes raise, never fold
KTo - usually call unless limpers good
QTo - usually call
K9o - usually fold unless players very bad
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - call
T9o - 50/50 fold/call, depending on skill of limpers
T9s - mostly call, very occasionally raise
98s - mostly call
97s - usually call
76s - usually call

One the CO:
same mostly, but I might fold some of the weaker offsuit broadway (QTo). I might raise something like 89s slightly more often to buy the button

JDErickson
05-12-2005, 12:36 AM
ATo - depends on limpers, fold or raise
KTo - fold
QTo - Fold
K9o - fold
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - sometimes call
T9o - fold
T9s - Sometimes call
98s - call
97s - fold
76s - call if a loose passive table

in CO I do the same except drop the JTo

CallMeIshmael
05-12-2005, 12:39 AM
On the button:
ATo - sometimes raise, never fold
KTo - call
QTo - call
K9o - fold
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - call/fold
T9o - often fold, sometimes call
T9s - raise, sometimes limp
98s - ^
97s - limp, generally
76s - ^

I raise a bit more in the CO than the button.

imported_leader
05-12-2005, 12:58 AM
On the button:
ATo - raise bad limpers but mostly call
KTo - call
QTo - borderline for me 3 or 4 limpers is a call. I'd sometimes raise two bad weak players
K9o - fold
Q9o -fold
J9o - fold
JTo - call but muck against good players
T9o - call 4 Is my rule for this one
T9s - call
98s - call
97s - 3+ call
76s - 3 or 4 is a call

I'd raise a bit more from the CO with the off suit cards like ATo of KTo

bobbyi
05-12-2005, 01:08 AM
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T9s - Sometimes call
98s - call

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You always call 98s but only sometimes call T9s?

wrto4556
05-12-2005, 01:12 AM
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T9s - Sometimes call
98s - call

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You always call 98s but only sometimes call T9s?

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Im guessing the other times are raises...

PBob, your preflop play is probably standard. Im too tight, too, but ive been told to try and thief alot more blinds and protect a bit more.

ckessel
05-12-2005, 03:09 PM
On the button:
ATo - raise
KTo - raise 2 limpers, probably limp to 3.
QTo - limp
K9o - fold
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - limp
T9o - fold
T9s - limp
98s - limp
97s - fold unless 4 or so limpers
76s - limp

On the CO:
ATo - raise
KTo - limp, raise 1-2 limpers
QTo - fold
K9o - fold
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - limp unless the button or blinds are maniacs
T9o - fold
T9s - limp
98s - maybe limp
97s - fold
76s - fold, maybe limp if there's 3-4 limpers.

chief444
05-12-2005, 03:15 PM
Pretty much dito to DMB.

If there are just a couple of limpers and they're bad and the blinds are tight though I'll raise more on the button.

TheHip41
05-12-2005, 03:16 PM
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KTo - fold
QTo - Fold
K9o - fold
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - sometimes call

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I don't get it. Why this love affair with JTo?

If KTo is a fold, why is JTo a call? Yeah, it makes more straights, so what. I just don't understand it, this hand is weak.

brettbrettr
05-12-2005, 03:26 PM
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KTo - fold
QTo - Fold
K9o - fold
Q9o - fold
J9o - fold
JTo - sometimes call

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I don't get it. Why this love affair with JTo?

If KTo is a fold, why is JTo a call? Yeah, it makes more straights, so what. I just don't understand it, this hand is weak.

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What I don't get is folding *all* of those hands in this spot. Hell, I'm a 16er and I don't even fold QT or KT in this spot.

27offsooot
05-12-2005, 03:33 PM
I think that it depends on too many other factors. Quality of limpers/ table image/ blinds/ etc. Sometimes it just depends on my mood. In general, i'm playing all of those hands on the button except Q9o, J9o, raising some (A10, 109s come to mind here). I sometimes play 810o, 67o and other wonderful hands on the button, so I don't really know. And I'm also a 16-17er at 3/6. In the CO, i raise more and will be a little more select.