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jason_t
05-11-2005, 09:15 PM
MP3 = tag
BB = unknown

Party Poker 5/10 (10 handed) (Yes, 5/10. Let's not talk about why.)

Preflop: I am CO with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#cc3333">I 3-bet</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif
BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 bets</font>, I call, BB calls

Turn: (6.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif
BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#cc3333">I raise</font>

planning to fold to a 3-bet, check behind on the river UI and open fold on the river if BB calls.

Sexy? Spewing?

private joker
05-11-2005, 09:18 PM
Ni han -- if he's a true TAG he doesn't have a high PP, and he might fold AK. BB will fold when charged with 2BBs on the turn.

DMBFan23
05-11-2005, 09:44 PM
for me this usually turns out to be either something AQish/KQish, or 99. I kind of like how you played it because youre very likely to have the best hand and you could force out BB who could have a pocket pair or a 5 or something. this is a freaking coup.

of course, you can't call a river bet UI

mr pink
05-11-2005, 09:45 PM
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if he's a true TAG he doesn't have a high PP

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why's that? because he'd check/raise it? i don't know about that.

DMBFan23
05-11-2005, 09:47 PM
QQ-AA is pretty much always capping PF, IMO. JJ is possible, TT as well but combanitorically unlikely, and of course there's 88/99

jason_t
05-11-2005, 10:16 PM
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if he's a true TAG he doesn't have a high PP

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why's that? because he'd check/raise it? i don't know about that.

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Lack of preflop cap especially since it isn't HU.

RacersEdge
05-11-2005, 10:45 PM
Interesting play. So raising on the turn instead of the flop cost you 1 SB. For that you get to face BB with 4.5-1 odds instead of 6-1 odds from a flop raise. Plus, some chance MP3 folds his AK/AQ/KQ/99.

Seems like it it's worth the price.

jason_t
05-11-2005, 11:47 PM
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Interesting play. So raising on the turn instead of the flop cost you 1 SB. For that you get to face BB with 4.5-1 odds instead of 6-1 odds from a flop raise. Plus, some chance MP3 folds his AK/AQ/KQ/99.

Seems like it it's worth the price.

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I was more focused on folding out the BB.

jason_t
05-13-2005, 08:20 PM
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MP3 = tag
BB = unknown

Party Poker 5/10 (10 handed) (Yes, 5/10. Let's not talk about why.)

Preflop: I am CO with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#cc3333">I 3-bet</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif
BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 bets</font>, I call, BB calls

Turn: (6.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif
BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#cc3333">I raise</font>

planning to fold to a 3-bet, check behind on the river UI and open fold on the river if BB calls.

Sexy? Spewing?

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Turn: (6.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif
BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#cc3333">I raise</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls.

River: (10.20 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
MP3 checks, I check.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB

Results:
MP3 has AJ.
I have AK, MHIG.

BB: I folded 99 on the turn.

mr pink
05-13-2005, 08:23 PM
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BB: I folded 99 on the turn.

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gotta love that.

nice hand.

jason_t
05-13-2005, 08:26 PM
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BB: I folded 99 on the turn.

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gotta love that.

nice hand.

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Thanks, but the question I really want answered is "Is this the right play?" Even though it worked, am I long term doing the right thing or the wrong thing?

partygirluk
05-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Time to reveal the truth.

I was really the CO in this hand with AK. Jason folded 55 fearing quads. He thought my turn play would be interesting to discuss, but I think his decision to 3 bet pf with 55 is more intriguing.

jason_t
05-13-2005, 08:32 PM
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Time to reveal the truth.

I was really the CO in this hand with AK. Jason folded 55 fearing quads. He thought my turn play would be interesting to discuss, but I think his decision to 3 bet pf with 55 is more intriguing.

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Your comments in SS are almost as unserious as istewart's.

brazilio
05-13-2005, 08:42 PM
What's with all these people incorrectly calling jason_t a nit? He would have folded the flop fearing quads, not the turn.

jason_t
05-13-2005, 08:44 PM
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What's with all these people incorrectly calling jason_t a nit? He would have folded the flop fearing quads, not the turn.

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Do I need to mark my threads with "Serious replies only"?

brazilio
05-13-2005, 08:45 PM
o sry

jason_t
05-13-2005, 08:48 PM
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o sry

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Check your sarcasm detector. I enjoy the lighter side of 2+2. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

brazilio
05-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Miracle Whip Light is a far superior product vs Miracle Whip, so I tend to agree.

mr pink
05-13-2005, 08:58 PM
this is a good example of playing poker. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...

in my retarded kind of way, i think this is a really great play... the turn raise did exactly what it was supposed to, no?

gaming_mouse
05-13-2005, 09:58 PM
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BB: I folded 99 on the turn.

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gotta love that.

nice hand.

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Thanks, but the question I really want answered is "Is this the right play?" Even though it worked, am I long term doing the right thing or the wrong thing?

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Yeah, it's a good play. Just pick your spots (as you did here, when you have a good read), and don't overuse it.