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HoldEm_Hero
05-11-2005, 11:18 AM
This hand just came up on TheFishTank. 3/6 NL

Hero is BB with J /images/graemlins/heart.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif and $520
Villain is UTG with $805
Couple limpers and Hero raises to $24. All fold to Villain who calls.

Flop 2 /images/graemlins/club.gifQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero leads for $45. Villain calls.

Turn K /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero checks. Mistake??? Villain bets $115. Whats my plan?

Thanks

thabadguy
05-11-2005, 11:24 AM
Fold, what hand that you beat calls flop and leads turn?

aggie
05-11-2005, 11:40 AM
Once you check the turn you should fold to villians bet.

Whether or not to fire again on the turn is completely dependent on your read of the villian. Against an unknown, i like check/folding the turn.

ObnxNole
05-11-2005, 11:44 AM
I think you should quit poker and stick to your day job Jonathon. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

HoldEm_Hero
05-11-2005, 12:14 PM
Point taken. NH.

Rotating Rabbit
05-11-2005, 12:17 PM
Fold. I dont see what the problem is.

arod15
05-11-2005, 12:17 PM
Nope well played just unfortunate. Betting isnt horrible there either but i would lean towards checking with two overcards on the turn. If there were to overs on the flop i think betting it becomes more appropriate. Its marginal but i think checkiong is better considering he called you on that flop.

HoldEm_Hero
05-11-2005, 12:25 PM
I ended up folding which I though was correct, he called that I had jacks and said I was beat. Thanks for the responses. Should I be worried that he read my hand?

Leptyne
05-11-2005, 02:12 PM
I think that you should be worried that you failed to have a plan before you put any money into the pot. You could easily have holdings like AQs, KQs, KK, or QQ. If you aren't willing to represent these types of holdings when an overcard flops then check fold the flop. I'm not trying to suggest what your plan should have been, just that you're going to stay in trouble if you wait until 4th street to ask "whats my plan?".

aggie
05-11-2005, 02:34 PM
well, i'm sure his plan on the flop was to bet and take the pot down. Sometimes in poker plans change.

Rotating Rabbit
05-11-2005, 03:17 PM
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I ended up folding which I though was correct, he called that I had jacks and said I was beat. Thanks for the responses. Should I be worried that he read my hand?

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No, because he could only pinpoint your hand after you folded.