ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

[stockman]

Before you lose your whole roll playing online poker I just wanted to tell you to stick to live game play. Online poker is rigged 100% & if you continue to play you will lose all of your money. I am a professinal poker player trying to get the word out. I make a living playing live games & consistently dominate these games. After losing constantly online I decided to do some studies & research these randomness of the cards & came to the 100% conclusion that they are set against you. I have several friends that play professionally & know many more that do & have never known anyone that could beat the online game consistently. If youre winning now its only because the site has you in win mode & soon you will hit distribution mode. New accounts & poorer players are givin better flops to keep tables full so the sharks wont take all their money, this keeps tables full & rake up. They also have site shills that play for site to take your roll. I learned the hard way. I hope to spread the word. These sites are mafia run & locate offshores so they are not regulated. Oh & ive heard all the #$%^ about why they wouldnt rig because its not in their interest. These are nieve gullables or paid site shills. The rake is no competition for taking your whole bankroll. Those who dont believe in conspiracy are fair game for those who conspire. The @#%% with the illuminati & all those work for them.
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[sthief09]

OMG TY U SAVED ME SO MUCH $$$$ I WAS BOUT TO DEPOSIT LOL GLAD I SAW THIS FIRST

[chesspain]

I know it seems like a kick now, but drinking bong water will ruin your health.

[Mr_J]

Lol you are a joke man.

If the cards are rigged against the good players, how come there are many good players making a living playing online?

[lorinda]

Anyone who dies and comes back three days later must be the real deal.

The question is: Will you be saved?

Lori

[sthief09]

[ QUOTE ]
The rake is no competition for taking your whole bankroll.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wish. from the last 2 at 10/20 6m weeks alone:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/sthief09/forretard.jpg




[ QUOTE ]
The @#%% with the illuminati & all those work for them.

[/ QUOTE ]

that gets an 'lol'

[dengar]

[ QUOTE ]
I know it seems like a kick now, but drinking bong water will ruin your health.

[/ QUOTE ]

i think we found our paid site shill!!

[MicroBob]

sorry to hear you and your friends suck at poker.



I'm happy the sites I play have me in the 'win mode'.
I'll be sure to keep an eye out for that dreaded 'distribution mode'.



Oh...and did I mention that I'm sorry to hear that you and and your friends suck at poker?

[busguy]

Yah, here is a guy who's advice I really want to listen to. A live "pro" that couldn't beat the online game. Did you ever think that you lost because you were too fukin stupid to change the way you play and didn't realize that you cannot play the same way on-line as you do live?? Huh there sporto ?? I've been playing on-line for the last 20 months and have been beating the game every month since I started. Not because I'm great or anything . . . but because I can freakin adapt !!

Oh and it's not cause the Poker site likes me . . . I got that message loud and clear when I had my account closed at Empire along with a ton of others this past week.

Seriously, crawl back to that smokie card room that you crawled out of and while your at it fuk off and die.

idiot

/images/graemlins/grin.gif busguy

[stockman]

LOL - What a bunch of nieve idiots. You can find my name at fulltiltpoker.com website, scroll down the left side, i won a seat to the wsop main event. I am famous at that site for beating many of the pros at 10 20 & 25 50 NL, when my account was new , I made 50k there in 4 weeks, Once the beats start coming im gone, It happens everytime. Im trying to a justice for the poker community. Anytime you want to play me live, give me your contact info. Im probably one of the best live cash players in the world. Just trying to tell the truth about online play thats all.

[lorinda]

Im probably one of the best live cash players in the world. Just trying to tell the truth about online play thats all.

Just because Full Tilt is rigged, it doesn't mean the whole of the internet is.

Lori

[stockman]

They all are lorrie, ive had accounts with all the majors. The same story all around. Ive had 22 straight winning sessions in live play. The math doesnt add up. I could write a book about poker. Phil ivey couldnt win on my party poker account. 2nd best set up hands everytime.

[lorinda]

Phil ivey couldnt win on my party poker account

What games did he play?

Lori

[AncientPC]

[ QUOTE ]
*** You are ignoring this user ***

[/ QUOTE ]

You'd be funny if you weren't so stupid.

[stockman]

Not understaning your last question, but i used to play him at fulltilt. Hes no better than someone that plays NL for a living. Most of the pros there are tv pros. I could beat them in live cash play.

[eastbay]

I guess when I signed up I was one of the lucky ones that they decided to put in permanent win mode. Happened at all three sites I've played. What luck!

eastbay

[stockman]

I guess you guys are just all great winners. Only 10% of players win in the long run, I find it vert funny that everyon e that has replied to my post is a winner. Ill be in tunica ms. this weekend if any one of you want to come play me. Ill pay you double what you win from me.

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Ivey couldn't win not because it is rigged against everyone, but just because Party Poker is racist.

[busguy]

I'm betting that this guy's initials might just be P.H.


/images/graemlins/grin.gif busguy

[StacysMom]

I've been on distribution mode for over a week now... Let me tell you, its no fun. I think I might stop playing for a while so they put me on win mode again.

[stockman]

My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[stockman]

You need to quit online play, I havent really found out a way to beat them yet, New accounts do better, but they will eventually get you. I know. I know too many people that are real cards players , none can win online.

[Redmen62]

[ QUOTE ]
I know too many people that are also whiny, shitty card players, none can win online.

[/ QUOTE ]

[sthief09]

[ QUOTE ]
You need to quit online play, I havent really found out a way to beat them yet, New accounts do better, but they will eventually get you. I know. I know too many people that are real cards players , none can win online.

[/ QUOTE ]


maybe you suck?

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Post your name and address and I'll send you a check of 20 dollars worth of my online poker profit to prove online poker isn't rigged.

[FMMonty]

[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]

Erik Sagstrom

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/othersport.cfm?id=465672005


Can I see my ocean front property in Nebraska now please

[sthief09]

[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]


nevermind, I sent him a PM instead

[Chiron]

[ QUOTE ]
I know too many people that are real cards players, none can win online.

[/ QUOTE ]

you're almost as dumb as NineBall7020. almost. not quite there.

[stockman]

LOL, i guess your erik then. Yea , any of these mafia run media companies can promote what they want too. I guess you believe osama bin ladin really took down the trade towers too. I worked as a trader when it happened. there were more puts bought on the stockmarket that day than any that year. People knew ahead of time. These companies are run by the same crooked people that control everything you see & hear in the media.

[lorinda]

Who killed JFK?

Lori

[Chiron]

pity da foo

http://www.nndb.com/people/227/000025152/mr-t-buff.jpg

[RolldUp]

At least 90% of the people who write these things are idiots or just bored members who just write these things to get kicks from all of the responses flaming them. If we just didnt respond to these stupid threads maybe people would stop making them.

[stockman]

Not Lee Harvy Oswald. Kennedy didnt want to go along with the illuminati ideas of going to war so they had one of their own put in. Thats why Bush & kerry are both skulls & bones. Underground society for illuminati. Oh by the way , I hear their are 280 million people in america. ONly 13 yale students go through skulls & bones every year. Bush, Kerry & bush senior all belong.

[stockman]

I can figure out if you people are that dammm dumb & nieve or are working for there cause. Im amazed at the response here. I could walk up to anyone in person thats played online & they all have since enough to know that its rigged. But here, wow, your people are really trying to defend them. I can guess it maybe because none of you are acutally good enough to win in live play either, so you dont know the differene. lol

[MicroBob]

[ QUOTE ]
Ill be in tunica ms. this weekend if any one of you want to come play me. Ill pay you double what you win from me.

[/ QUOTE ]


Awesome!!
I will SOOOOO take you up on this offer (I live in Memphis).
Let me know where and when and I'll try to make it if nothing important comes up.


(hey trout - I can recognize a +EV opportunity when I see one!!!)

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Oswald killed Kennedy with a magic bullet. This was all revealed by the black president before earth was hit by a meteor.

[jrbick]

[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]

Alright; I probably shouldn't be doing this, but I suppose this is a good time for at least the abridged version of my story (I was hoping to wait until I become a successfull 5/10 SH player). I have not invested 1 cent into my bankroll, ever. I won $3.60 in a freeroll at Royal Vegas last October. With that $3.60 I worked my way up the nano-levels and built my roll up to 300.00 by Febuary of this year playing .05/.10; then .10/.20; then .25/.50 levels. Since then, I moved to Eurobet where I have been a consistant winning player at .5/1 (small sample size; ~30k hands) having taken 4 shots now at 1/2. Each time I've taken a bad hit at 1/2 I have always managed to build my roll back up at .5/1 to go back up to 1/2 (between 5-600.00). Granted, this has all been playing LHE. I think you are maybe talking only about NLHE? If so, maybe you should then qualify your claim against online poker as pertaining only to NLHE?

My point: Online poker has been nothing but good for me; a 100% return (not really a return since there was no investment, but it's late and I can't think of a better word). Just showing you what you asked for.

[stockman]

JR, You can go to full tilt & ask anyone at the site who I am at the big limits. They all know me. I started with $250 there & turned to 50K in 4 weeks playing 2 4 NL, 5 10 NL & some limit games. Also a wsop seat, I did this to prove that new accounts could win. Now i cant even win a hand there. You can win for a while, but youll eventually lose. Im just telling you the truth. Oh , by the way i had more points that anyone at the site. I played 3 tables at once for 10 -12 hrs a day.

[Kirg]

[ QUOTE ]
I can figure out if you people are that dammm dumb & nieve...

[/ QUOTE ]

Seriously, that's the fourth post you've done that.

Spell it with me.
N-A-I-V-E

Yes, there you go, now slowly.
Na-ive

Very nice, all together now
Naive.

Congratulations. At least you learned something today.

[stockman]

Great, ILL be at the horseshoe playing 10 20 Or 20 40 if they have it. My name is Gabe, Ill will send you my email if you wish. we can meet.

[jrbick]

[ QUOTE ]
JR, You can go to full tilt & ask anyone at the site who I am at the big limits. They all know me. I started with $250 there & turned to 50K in 4 weeks playing 2 4 NL, 5 10 NL & some limit games. Also a wsop seat, I did this to prove that new accounts could win. Now i cant even win a hand there. You can win for a while, but youll eventually lose. Im just telling you the truth. Oh , by the way i had more points that anyone at the site. I played 3 tables at once for 10 -12 hrs a day.

[/ QUOTE ]

We should probably both come back and re-examine this once we've hit 200K hands, no?

Anyone in here vouch for the fact that if someone hasn't had a bad run in live play, they probably haven't seen enough hands?

[Chiron]

i think somebody is pulling our chains.

[stockman]

200k hands?? I played 1500 - 2500 hands a day there. Not trying to brag, but i'm as good as anyone that plays & i cant win online. No one could win on my account right now , i dont care how good you are.

[jrbick]

If I use your account and win, will you buy me a seat in the 2005 WSOP?

[stockman]

If there was a way to do it, i would let you try, if you want to deposit to my account, Ill give you username & password to it. Good luck

[i wanna be me]

[ QUOTE ]
200k hands?? I played 1500 - 2500 hands a day there. Not trying to brag, but i'm as good as anyone that plays & i cant win online. No one could win on my account right now , i dont care how good you are.

[/ QUOTE ]

are you bill fillmaff? maybe you need some sunglasses so that you can look into everyone's soul

[jrbick]

What about the WSOP seat?

[jokerthief]

Oh nO, I'm a <font color="red"> nieve gullable </font> !

[MicroBob]

i think the 20/40 is always running at HS. definitely on weekends. whether you can get a seat into it is a different story.

any of the zoo-ers want me to go to see if this guy really exists?

[stockman]

I have officially challenged MICROBOB this weekend at tunica. I havent seen another post from him since. Im a real player with a real challenge trying to proof a real point. If you say you can win online, you must be a heck of a lot better player than me. BRING IT

[stockman]

Im as serious as a stroke Bob, I will give you my email address, we can meet up &amp; play, I would love to actually meet someone that can win online.

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know why I'm bothering with you because you're obviously an idiot or a troll or both.

But, here's your evidence:

http://sitngo-analyzer.com/poker/ROI-55.PNG

I'm sure a real braniac like you is smart enough to do the math to figure out the probability that I am a winning player in these games after these 1272 tournaments which span about 6 months' time. I guess they didn't kick me into "distribution" mode over this period? Come on, man, that's black helicopter tinfoil hat stuff.

Tons of people win online. If you don't, it's because you are playing worse than your opponents. Period. Maybe you should try moving down in limits. You will see that the lower level games are softer, and you will prove to yourself that you can win.

Here's something most B&amp;M don't want to accept: the play online is generally much TOUGHER than the play in B&amp;M casinos, despite what the B&amp;M casino guys love to think. I know because I play both.

eastbay

[Chiron]

somebody should volunteer to go with bob and get this on video.

[MicroBob]

i'm not giving out my e-mail address.


if you want you can just tell me where or when either here or via PM and I'll see if I can make it.
I was planning on playing sometime this weekend anyway.

you're not planning to inflict bodily harm upon me are you?

[stockman]

I dont know what that is or where it came from, but it looks like all SNG tournament play, I dont play tourneys very much, I play ring cash games, that looks great, but i dont know where i came from or where you got it. I'm a border line mathmatical genious (my reason for playing cards) &amp; i can tell you that the math doesnt add up on these online sites. The players at Party poker are dreadful, yet still cant win. I have enough sense to figure out when the deck stacked against me.

[stockman]

LOL, no bodily harm . Im just trying to prove a point about online poker. Email me, costnerinvestments@charter.net I daytrade &amp; play poker for a living. I average around 4 BB an hour or better at these casinos or live play. Ill be there this weekend. Sometimes i make it to the NL game at the goldstrike but the stakes are small so try to spend some time at the limit tables for cash.

[Chiron]

seriously, this guy is a joke. he's messing with all of you.

[stockman]

Why would i be messing with anyone. Most people that ive ran into that think online isnt rigged are poorer players that cant win anyway &amp; they cant tell the difference between live play &amp; online play. All the players i know that are consistent winners all know that online poker is rigged. Its no secret, just like pro football games are point shaved. Anything that there is big money involved its usually crooked;

[FMMonty]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont know what that is or where it came from, but it looks like all SNG tournament play, I dont play tourneys very much, I play ring cash games, that looks great, but i dont know where i came from or where you got it. I'm a border line mathmatical genious (my reason for playing cards) &amp; i can tell you that the math doesnt add up on these online sites. The players at Party poker are dreadful, yet still cant win. I have enough sense to figure out when the deck stacked against me.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a border line mathmatical genious??

Hmmmm do you mean:

I'm a borderline mathematical genius??

Even if that is what you meant I'm still not convinced.

[stockman]

Well that was waisted post, Are you an english teacher??

[lacky]

[ QUOTE ]
I would love to actually meet someone that can win online.


[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, but Bob's not qualified. He's never won at my table anyway.... /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Steve

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont know what that is or where it came from, but it looks like all SNG tournament play

[/ QUOTE ]

It's my results in SnG tournament play, which happens to be my game of choice. Are you going to now say that they rig the cash games but not the tournaments? Yeah, that makes sense.

[ QUOTE ]

I dont play tourneys very much, I play ring cash games, that looks great, but i dont know where i came from or where you got it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I got those results by playing the games. Pretty simple.

[ QUOTE ]

I'm a border line mathmatical genious (my reason for playing cards) &amp; i can tell you that the math doesnt add up on these online sites.

[/ QUOTE ]

Evidence? No hand waving or "just trust me man" bullshit. Hard, concrete, statistical evidence.

You are not the first person to make these accusations. Some have even gone to the trouble to collect data to prove that there are irregularities. None have ever been found (to my knowledge on the major sites). Many of these fishing expeditions have come to the opposite conclusion: the deal is fair.

[ QUOTE ]

The players at Party poker are dreadful, yet still cant win. I have enough sense to figure out when the deck stacked against me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently you don't.

High probability fact: Many players win consistently long-term at online poker, both tournaments and cash games. Many of them post here. You don't have to go searching high and low for winners. They are everywhere.

Certain fact: I win consistently at online poker and have for many thousands of games and many tens of thousands of hands.

If the mob is trying to rip me off, they're really sucking at it.

eastbay

[MicroBob]

I'll probably go down to the HS 10/20 or 20/40 this weekend sometime...but I don't know if making any arrangements ahead of time is such a hot idea.


I can say one thing though....his insistence that a lot of people think it's rigged is accurate.
On the PPM cruise I overheard SEVERAL conversations to this effect. A couple people tried to have discussions about the 'action flops' and 'cash-out curse' with me but I just nodded agreeably and either tried to leave or change the subject. Whatever. But there were MANY people I interacted with who were convinced that their cards ran terribly because they cashed-out...etc etc etc (I think we've heard it all before).


So...while everything else this guy has said is completely idiotic he IS, in fact, correct regarding the number of people who share his feelings on the rigged-ness of online-poker.

[stockman]

Eastbay, I can speak for your account,youve played it &amp; i havent, but ive won much more than 16K at times, only to have it all taken away in a short period of time playing the same way. The standard deviation of the variance in my results are almost not mathematically possible to exist. When im playing my account, I can get a big pair in the hole &amp; get heads up with someone &amp; if the board pairs 9s or something, there should be very little chance there calling with a 9, but around 40% of the time , it will happen. Ive did big studies on these types of situations &amp; they occur way too often to be legit. I have heard from others than know more about how the site does it that say the larger cash games &amp; even NL games are the easiest for them to make money.

[stockman]

Tell me one thing, why is everything else ive said idiotic. I dont understand that comment. Ill tell you that i know a lot of things that exist in this country that most people dont belive, they always laugh or ignore it to live in there own little world &amp; think everybody is trustworthy &amp; out for a good cause, but almost anything to do with big money is rigged. If you dont think the government is run by the mob, then you have a lot to learn. All big corporations are run by the same people, the same sit on their boards &amp; own the majority of their stock. They can &amp; will do anything to take my &amp; your money. I cant really prove to you that online poker is rigged, but i can tell you that i know absolutely 100% sure that it is.

[crovax4444]

stockman,

I think you found a friend: http://home.ripway.com/2005-3/274804/RIGGED.pdf

I wonder where that PP guide was...I saw it a while ago, you might be interested to read it, it's somewhere in this forum explaining why PP is rigged...Mabye if you read it, you can find the secrets of PP, and I'm sure one of us will allow you to pratice your technique against us.

Btw, love your spelling, I swear, the look on my face when I read the words from a genius is from the gas :-P

[FMMonty]

[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]

Gabe Kaplin per chance?

[MicroBob]

to the original point....because there are several successful online-poker players on this forum.

Your inability to beat the game is your own problem but you want to blame the site instead (because a border line mathematical genious couldn't possibly lose due to lack of skill evidently).

I am in no mood to address your other conspiracy-theory ideas regarding pro football and the government and the mob.

I think I'm done with this thread.
I hope you are sitting in one of my games this weekend.

[radek2166]

[ QUOTE ]
OMG TY U SAVED ME SO MUCH $$$$ I WAS BOUT TO DEPOSIT LOL GLAD I SAW THIS FIRST

[/ QUOTE ]

[stockman]

No,

[Emperor]

Dude, the aliens are about to beam you into their ship! Run! Run! They know!

Is it just me or is this guys english VERY similar to "BrownThumb"?

[stockman]

Bob, Ive got to run. Anyway I doubt that any of these guys have ever won consistently. Most people never tell you what they lose. just like a regular slot player will always tell you what they win, but never how much they lost before they hit. Same way with poker. Youll here people that go on streaks &amp; win for a while that claim to make a living from online poker, then all of a sudden they lose their whole roll in a couple of weeks &amp; think its a streak of bad luck. No, the site just turned the doom switch on. Anyway, ill be there, My name is GAbe, you can prob find me on the list when your there &amp; check the game out. Im a young guy with dark hair. Oh, &amp; ill be the one with all the chips. Maybe ill see you. Im guessing you name is Bob

[FMMonty]

[ QUOTE ]
No,

[/ QUOTE ]

what is your full name then?

[ripped]

[ QUOTE ]
I have officially challenged MICROBOB this weekend at tunica. I havent seen another post from him since. Im a real player with a real challenge trying to proof a real point. If you say you can win online, you must be a heck of a lot better player than me. BRING IT

[/ QUOTE ]

to "proof" a real point

you are a math genius but your grammar is grade 3 ish.

Btw I am another online/B&amp;M pro that has never had a problem beating either game. It is true that the B&amp;M games are much easier than the online games. I adjust to both and have been playing WINNING poker online and off for the last 2 years without having a "real job"

[ripped]

[ QUOTE ]
Bob, Ive got to run. Anyway I doubt that any of these guys have ever won consistently. Most people never tell you what they lose. just like a regular slot player will always tell you what they win, but never how much they lost before they hit. Same way with poker. Youll here people that go on streaks &amp; win for a while that claim to make a living from online poker, then all of a sudden they lose their whole roll in a couple of weeks &amp; think its a streak of bad luck. No, the site just turned the doom switch on. Anyway, ill be there, My name is GAbe, you can prob find me on the list when your there &amp; check the game out. Im a young guy with dark hair. Oh, &amp; ill be the one with all the chips. Maybe ill see you. Im guessing you name is Bob

[/ QUOTE ]

here or hear? You are either tired or retarded. I will let the zoo make that judgement.

[Drunk Bob]

OMG ITS RIGGED!

What should I do with the $30,000 profit?

Give it back or donate to charity?

Lord forbid I cheated someone. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[stockman]

Most are not that much different. It just pretty easy to figure out when your playing 6 max &amp; 3 or 4 of the players are coming in early pos with junk (anything suited etc.) &amp; calling raises with them &amp; i cant win using perfect poker formula, something isnt right. I would love to actually meet someone in person that could win online &amp; watch them play. My guess is your either lying or your account is just one of the few that hasnt had the doom switch. Ive play ed at everty major site &amp; most all of them let you win for a while. John Juanda told me i was one of the best players he had ever played with &amp; most of the pros Ive played with thought the same, but still cant win online

[ripped]

ummm correct me if im wrong but you should be playing about 7-8% more hands 6max than you should be playing full ring. If you are playing 6max like you would full ring then you will lose FOR SURE. Im a winning 6max player. I see about 24% flops in 6max where I see about 17% in full ring. Also you should be raising another 3-4% more in 6max than full ring. 6max is just like STT's, NL and LHE. A totally different animal to slay.

[stockman]

Ripped, Im well aware of that, I have a 6 max starting hand chart with exactly which hands are mathmatically correct to play from wich positions &amp; what you should be calling raises with etc. or coming in raising with, most are fold or raise situations. I rarely limp these games, im raising or folding. Most players should be profitable just sticking to this because the players are so bad, Im a very good short handed player or ring &amp; considermyself as good as anyone. There are no leaks in my game that i know of, just up against rigged poker.

[Drunk Bob]

You need the special 6max pattern mapper.

[stockman]

????

[viennagreen]

stockman,

i'm a little embarrassed to be getting sucked into this warped thread but----

You've "did big studies"--- let's see them... wait--- let's just see what the "standard deviation of the variance" in your results are. What are the "mathematically possible to exist" standard deviation of the variance('s?) ?

Why am I comfortable asking these questions? Because you have done no "big studies" and you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

A mathematically-oriented person would know these answers before jumping to your conclusions. Post them.

You won't though, because you are no genius. You, like so many other people, have an inflated opinion of your own abilities. If you fail at something, it must be due to some external factor rather than your own internal faults.

Here's your chance to shine though, genius. Post some math. I know you can't prove that the sites are rigged--- but, at a minimum, show us from a theoretical point what results would give us confidence that the sites are rigged.

Okay i have an solution for you!

You are the best player in the world.
Why dont you play on tables with only good players, whom all in the losing mode, then you are still winning becouse you are the better player!

[mybutthurts]

[ QUOTE ]
I guess when I signed up I was one of the lucky ones that they decided to put in permanent win mode. Happened at all three sites I've played. What luck!

eastbay

[/ QUOTE ],,,,&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;liar

[mybutthurts]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know why I'm bothering with you because you're obviously an idiot or a troll or both.

But, here's your evidence:

http://sitngo-analyzer.com/poker/ROI-55.PNG

I'm sure a real braniac like you is smart enough to do the math to figure out the probability that I am a winning player in these games after these 1272 tournaments which span about 6 months' time. I guess they didn't kick me into "distribution" mode over this period? Come on, man, that's black helicopter tinfoil hat stuff.

Tons of people win online. If you don't, it's because you are playing worse than your opponents. Period. Maybe you should try moving down in limits. You will see that the lower level games are softer, and you will prove to yourself that you can win.

Here's something most B&amp;M don't want to accept: the play online is generally much TOUGHER than the play in B&amp;M casinos, despite what the B&amp;M casino guys love to think. I know because I play both.

eastbay


[/ QUOTE ]&lt;&lt;&lt;big liar couldnt win if hole cards were face up.

[mybutthurts]

[ QUOTE ]
Tell me one thing, why is everything else ive said idiotic. I dont understand that comment. Ill tell you that i know a lot of things that exist in this country that most people dont belive, they always laugh or ignore it to live in there own little world &amp; think everybody is trustworthy &amp; out for a good cause, but almost anything to do with big money is rigged. If you dont think the government is run by the mob, then you have a lot to learn. All big corporations are run by the same people, the same sit on their boards &amp; own the majority of their stock. They can &amp; will do anything to take my &amp; your money. I cant really prove to you that online poker is rigged, but i can tell you that i know absolutely 100% sure that it is.

[/ QUOTE ]&lt;&lt;&lt; these are the words of a true genius.

[bicyclekick]

[ QUOTE ]
Ripped, Im well aware of that, I have a 6 max starting hand chart with exactly which hands are mathmatically correct to play from wich positions &amp; what you should be calling raises with etc. or coming in raising with, most are fold or raise situations. I rarely limp these games, im raising or folding. Most players should be profitable just sticking to this because the players are so bad, Im a very good short handed player or ring &amp; considermyself as good as anyone. There are no leaks in my game that i know of, just up against rigged poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can find a leak just from reading your post. You've got this "mathamtical chart" of which hands to play as if the game conditions/opponents never changed. Right.

I'm sure you just suck at poker and that's that.

I have a huge DB that shows with 99%+ confidence (based on standard devaiations) that I'm a winning player online. Would that shut you up?

[Mike Haven]

I dont know what that is or where it came from

It's a screenshot from PokerTracker.

There may be a few, (but very few), online poker winners that don't use it, simply for relaxed study of their own game, if not directly to choose games in which to play.

I cannot understand how anyone that has played seriously online for any length of time has not at least come across it in their general studies and reading and doesn't even know what it is; yet, in other posts, writes confidently that they have no leaks, because they have a chart.

Give us a break.

[Mike Haven]

John Juanda told me i was one of the best players he had ever played with &amp; most of the pros Ive played with thought the same, but still cant win online

Write to JJ at FTP and tell him that because you are such a high profile good player FTP is getting bad publicity by turning on their doom switch for you, because you are really a good guy at heart and you are going round all the internet forums warning potential players and giving them the proof that as you are now losing then internet poker must be rigged.

Tell him you'll keep quiet if they turn the dial round just a notch so you are at least a beat-the-rake winner.

I can't see him objecting to that for someone like you.

Tell him you think that hundreds of forum-readers throughout the world would be in favour of this solution to stop you posting and let you get back to the game. Hell, tell him you'll even join in his game again so he can continue to compliment your nice hands.

[zaphod]

Come on, we all know this guy is right. The proof is here:

proof (http://www.billrini.com/archives/001169.html)

[Abe]

The KOOKS are back!

Oh goody, its been a while.

[Izenra]

wow.. exact same post on other poker forum....

Ok you are a fish ...

[meow_meow]

[ QUOTE ]
stockman,

i'm a little embarrassed to be getting sucked into this warped thread but----

You've "did big studies"--- let's see them... wait--- let's just see what the "standard deviation of the variance" in your results are. What are the "mathematically possible to exist" standard deviation of the variance('s?) ?

Why am I comfortable asking these questions? Because you have done no "big studies" and you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

A mathematically-oriented person would know these answers before jumping to your conclusions. Post them.

You won't though, because you are no genius. You, like so many other people, have an inflated opinion of your own abilities. If you fail at something, it must be due to some external factor rather than your own internal faults.

Here's your chance to shine though, genius. Post some math. I know you can't prove that the sites are rigged--- but, at a minimum, show us from a theoretical point what results would give us confidence that the sites are rigged.

[/ QUOTE ]

I second that.
I wish for once that someone who claimed proof of rigging would at least provide some statistical proof.

Even if it was all made up, at least we could have a semi-intelligent discussion about the meaning and legitimacy of the data.

You can't prove that online poker isn't rigged.

On a tangent, I find it disturbing that OP can correctly spell "illuminati", but not "naive" or "genius". I can't help but think he's jerking our collective chain.

[grimel]

[ QUOTE ]
So...while everything else this guy has said is completely idiotic he IS, in fact, correct regarding the number of people who share his feelings on the rigged-ness of online-poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yet, they continue to play.

[CanIPlay]

Hey; it's Jackpot Jay.

[PygmyHero]

I think you misunderstood the OP. Those players making a living are in 'win' mode right now.

Duh.

[IndieMatty]

[ QUOTE ]
seriously, this guy is a joke. he's messing with all of you.

[/ QUOTE ]

[PokerBob]

Did your uncle touch you when you were little?

[BottlesOf]

YOU ARE 100% A DUMBASS

[ QUOTE ]
The rake is no competition for taking your whole bankroll.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you really this stupid? I have a healthy bankroll for the mid limit games I play, and I've paid way more than this amount in rake.

[BottlesOf]

[ QUOTE ]
nieve

[/ QUOTE ]

The word is "naive" you [censored] trisomy-21 bitch.

[BottlesOf]

[ QUOTE ]
I hear their are 280 million people in america.

[/ QUOTE ]

I "here" our public schools are woefully underfunded. I don't know how anyone reading your posts could disagree.

[jedi]

[ QUOTE ]
seriously, this guy is a joke. he's messing with all of you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Duh. Didn't anyone notice the "back to top" line at the end of the OP? That's obviously a cut-and-paste from some other forum or website. He's just trolling us here to see what kind of reaction he can get. I can't believe I wasted my time with this.

[kiddj]

[ QUOTE ]
Come on, we all know this guy is right. The proof is here:

proof (http://www.billrini.com/archives/001169.html)

[/ QUOTE ]

That's the funniest thing I've ever seen here!!! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[solucky]

i agree particular that its rigged, but not that it is unbeatable......Guess the biggest problem for liveplayers is not any Onlineplayer is a fish. At sample many live 2-4 players are loosers at Onine 2-4.

[TheHip41]

This guy is proof that crack babbies do, in fact, survive.

[TheHip41]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
My name is Gabe, maybe you see me on the WSOP, Im a professional cash player thats sick of the mafia run online poker business. If you could show me any evidence or ANYONE thats ever made money from online poker, Ill show you ocean front property in Nebraska

[/ QUOTE ]

Erik Sagstrom

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/othersport.cfm?id=465672005


Can I see my ocean front property in Nebraska now please

[/ QUOTE ]


That article is rigged /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Greg J]

Wow you are good. World class obviously. I don't know how anyone on the board could ever doubt you. What a bunch of morans and ideits. I'm with you. And that Jesus spammer. You guys know the TRUTH!

[kiddj]

Here's my issue: I started playing at the local B&amp;M...and won. I tried online...and I lost. So I read SSHE and studied a bit...and started winning on line...and withdrew my original stake. And I have kept on winning. Now, when I go to the B&amp;M I CRUSH the game. I would put money on ANY winning $2/$4 player against the B&amp;M $20/$40 games any day.

[MaxPower]

Thanks for the info. What you are saying must be true. After all, anyone who can daytrade and beat a casino 20/40 game must be one of the best players in the world.

I've been playing on Party Poker and winning for almost 4 years now. When do you think they will put me into distribution mode?

I would just like to take this opportunity to thank the Party Poker managment for not putting me into distribution or doom mode, yet.

[imported_adhoc]

[ QUOTE ]

Very nice, all together now
Naive.

Congratulations. At least you learned something today.

[/ QUOTE ]

Isn't it usually spelled with a diaeresis over the "i?"

[fnord_too]

[ QUOTE ]
These are nieve gullables...

[/ QUOTE ]
Two (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&amp;q=Naive) links (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony) you may find informative.

[beernutz]

Why didn't you just create a new account and play under that then? Even I know how to do that and I'm not the self-professed rocket scientist of poker you claim to be.

[ QUOTE ]
200k hands?? I played 1500 - 2500 hands a day there. Not trying to brag, but i'm as good as anyone that plays &amp; i cant win online. No one could win on my account right now , i dont care how good you are.

[/ QUOTE ]

[BiffMan]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
These are nieve gullables...

[/ QUOTE ]
Two (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&amp;q=Naive) links (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony) you may find informative.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL on the second link

[Freudian]

I can understand how these ideas stay alive. For example in the last two months I have had two biggish drops. Both the day after I withdrew money (something I have only done 2-3 times in this period).

So obviously it is the cashout curse.

We can trust our brains to fill in gaps in the weirdest ways.

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
Eastbay, I can speak for your account,youve played it &amp; i havent,

[/ QUOTE ]

I've played several other accounts with the same results within the limits of probability. I've played my then girlfriend's account with the same results. Give me any account at any well known site and I will produce the same results. Even yours.

The accounts don't matter. Just the player and the competition. If you play better, you win. If you play worse, you lose. Period.

[ QUOTE ]

but ive won much more than 16K at times, only to have it all taken away in a short period of time playing the same way.

[/ QUOTE ]

Playing over your head, no doubt.

[ QUOTE ]

The standard deviation of the variance in my results are almost not mathematically possible to exist. When im playing my account, I can get a big pair in the hole &amp; get heads up with someone &amp; if the board pairs 9s or something, there should be very little chance there calling with a 9, but around 40% of the time , it will happen. Ive did big studies on these types of situations &amp; they occur way too often to be legit.


[/ QUOTE ]

I call bullshit. Show your studies, with data and analysis.

eastbay

[Kevin K.]

[ QUOTE ]
I am a professinal poker player trying to get the word out.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's as far as I got, but I do have a question. So what do you think of all your fellow professional poker playing buddies who promote poker sites???

Idiot.

[GuruCane]

"Get in ya hole ya bitch!"

[Stupendous_Man]

[ QUOTE ]
i won a seat to the wsop main event. I am famous at that site for beating many of the pros at 10 20 &amp; 25 50 NL

[/ QUOTE ]


Cool, someone famous posts on here! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Look forward to seeing you at the final table when ESPN airs the WSOP Main Event.

[skoal2k4]

[ QUOTE ]

Once the beats start coming im gone, It happens everytime


[/ QUOTE ]

so... you believe you're immune to variance?

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
Ripped, Im well aware of that, I have a 6 max starting hand chart with exactly which hands are mathmatically correct to play from wich positions &amp; what you should be calling raises with etc. or coming in raising with, most are fold or raise situations. I rarely limp these games, im raising or folding. Most players should be profitable just sticking to this because the players are so bad, Im a very good short handed player or ring &amp; considermyself as good as anyone. There are no leaks in my game that i know of, just up against rigged poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh come on. I guess this must be a joke. You have a starting chart?

Oh, well why didn't you SAY so? Geez, how can anybody lose when they have a starting chart!? Man, this must be rigged! This changes everything! I wasn't convinced until you told me you had a starting chart!

Dude, this is the simple fact: you lose because you play worse than your opponents. Period.

Out.

eastbay

[Stupendous_Man]

[ QUOTE ]
Ive had 22 straight winning sessions in live play. The math doesnt add up.

[/ QUOTE ]


22 straight, but what's your total? If you've won 22 straight, but have played 10,000 tourneys that's nothing to get excited about. People can run good in the short term. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif


[ QUOTE ]
I could write a book about poker.

[/ QUOTE ]


Please do. We need more fish! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mindflayer]

I havent read all of the posts.. but ok let us assume it is rigged and there is a doom switch.

How does the internet site benifit?

Do they use bots to collect your winnings??
Do they let a $250 account swell to $50,000 and then run it down to $0 in the hopes
you will deposit $250 more dollars so they can win the 250 from you?? (while they have already collected thousands in rake from you?)
In all the evil scheems that you have mentioned, the Villian always had a clear motive for his actions.
What is the motive of the internet site?

[Stupendous_Man]

Looks like MB is going to add to his br this weekend! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Stupendous_Man]

I agree with MB's comments, that a lot of people do think it's rigged. I know people who will only play live for this reason.

I also know some people who play online, have done well, yet won't whore casinos b/c they think those are rigged!

[PotatoStew]

[ QUOTE ]
If youre winning now its only because the site has you in win mode &amp; soon you will hit distribution mode.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude, when this happens, you just go under "Preferences" and toggle it back to "Win Mode". Come on.

[Stupendous_Man]

[ QUOTE ]
This guy is proof that crack babbies do, in fact, survive.

[/ QUOTE ]


NH, sir!

[radek2166]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If youre winning now its only because the site has you in win mode &amp; soon you will hit distribution mode.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude, when this happens, you just go under "Preferences" and toggle it back to "Win Mode". Come on.

[/ QUOTE ]

NH Sir!

[grimel]

[ QUOTE ]
Ive had 22 straight winning sessions in live play.

[/ QUOTE ]

That means jack nada. If you've fought back over 12 hrs to net $20 then leave and stop after 3hrs because you're up $40 to keep your "streak" running you've pissed away much profit. It's all one loooooong session.

IOW, game over, you lose, insert coin.

[grimel]

Considering all the games have a healthy house advantage (BJ can be beat long term with effort) in the truest sense the online casinos (along with B&amp;M) ARE rigged.

[solucky]

ok the theory / motive is easy

at sample a shark need normal 150 games to win all the money from a fish. If they create a few games at sample trips A lost against a "fishstraight" he need 300 hands to win all the money.

1. The fish have longer entertainment / fun with his $$$

2. The shark wins

3. The server double there Profit

In this way ANY is GLAD

[Kevin K.]

[ QUOTE ]
LOL - What a bunch of nieve idiots. You can find my name at fulltiltpoker.com website, scroll down the left side, i won a seat to the wsop main event. I am famous at that site for beating many of the pros at 10 20 &amp; 25 50 NL, when my account was new , I made 50k there in 4 weeks, Once the beats start coming im gone, It happens everytime. Im trying to a justice for the poker community. Anytime you want to play me live, give me your contact info. Im probably one of the best live cash players in the world. Just trying to tell the truth about online play thats all.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, now the mafia run poker sites know where to find you. Watch your back at the WSOP. Chris Ferguson may throw a few cards at your head.

[Kevin K.]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont know what that is or where it came from, but it looks like all SNG tournament play, I dont play tourneys very much, I play ring cash games, that looks great, but i dont know where i came from or where you got it. I'm a border line mathmatical genious (my reason for playing cards) &amp; i can tell you that the math doesnt add up on these online sites. The players at Party poker are dreadful, yet still cant win. I have enough sense to figure out when the deck stacked against me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your grammar sucks, though. And you certainly aren't a spelling champ.

[Kevin K.]

[ QUOTE ]
Ripped, Im well aware of that, I have a 6 max starting hand chart with exactly which hands are mathmatically correct to play from wich positions &amp; what you should be calling raises with etc. or coming in raising with, most are fold or raise situations. I rarely limp these games, im raising or folding. Most players should be profitable just sticking to this because the players are so bad, Im a very good short handed player or ring &amp; considermyself as good as anyone. There are no leaks in my game that i know of, just up against rigged poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're a pro. What do you need a chart for.

[captZEEbo1]

I've played a bunch with stockman, and he actually is good. I don't know why he thinks online poker is rigged though lol. I know that he DID lose like 28k in one day getting raped by the pros at 25/50 nl though.

[on_thg]

[ QUOTE ]
stockman,

I think you found a friend: http://home.ripway.com/2005-3/274804/RIGGED.pdf

I wonder where that PP guide was...I saw it a while ago, you might be interested to read it, it's somewhere in this forum explaining why PP is rigged...Mabye if you read it, you can find the secrets of PP, and I'm sure one of us will allow you to pratice your technique against us.

Btw, love your spelling, I swear, the look on my face when I read the words from a genius is from the gas :-P

[/ QUOTE ]

The only way to reverse the curse is to change your screen name. I'd suggest changing it to "PartyIsRiggd", but I think it's taken.

[PITTM]

so you arent going to show us the results of all the "research" you have done?

rj

[PITTM]

human beings really can get this stupid? wow, im sure youre one of the best players in the world because you said you are. cant question that one...

rj

[PITTM]

uhhh, i can, pm me and ill send you pages of documents showing i am a winning player...

rj

[PITTM]

[ QUOTE ]
JR, You can go to full tilt &amp; ask anyone at the site who I am at the big limits. They all know me. I started with $250 there &amp; turned to 50K in 4 weeks playing 2 4 NL, 5 10 NL &amp; some limit games.

[/ QUOTE ]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that is all...

[PITTM]

i wanna see the big studies "you've did..."

rj

[PITTM]

yeah, theres totally no leaks in your game, your flawless, you probably NEVER lose a hand live. impressive.

rj

[flair1239]

hmmmm...distribution mode.... YEAH!!! That is why have been getting my Ass kicked so bad the last week, THEY SWITCHED ME TO F@#$ING DISTRIBUTION MODE... The cocksuckers.

[CORed]

[ QUOTE ]
Congratulations. At least you learned something today.

[/ QUOTE ]

I doubt it. Only nieve people spell it "naive". I think he's to stuped to lern.

[TruePoker CEO]

"the doom switch"

Wait, is that some innovation we haven't installed yet ? ..... I'll get back to you on that.

[grimel]

Great, now the one place left knows about it.

David,

Just to let you know. It can only be inserted into a 2d screen. That 3d view you have precludes it from being used.

[gasoltub]

[ QUOTE ]
trips A lost against a "fishstraight"

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, that made me laugh /images/graemlins/smile.gif
that and of course that I have just been switched from distribution mode to win mode again. All I had to do was to mail support and ask them to flip my switch /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Bob L]

Ive played online for over 5 yrs -so if your trying to convince me that its rigged -sorry I dont belive you (neitehr does my wife -who doesnt play at all ...).If you really think its rigged -my best advice to you is -DONT PLAY.

[EliteNinja]

[ QUOTE ]
The same story all around. Ive had 22 straight winning sessions in live play. The math doesnt add up.

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently, your math sucks. Since when does 22 straight winning sessions in live play make you not suck online?

[shutupndeal]

I SINCERELY hope that I am the LAST PERSON who has to suffer through yet another post from ANOTHER DISGRUNTLED FAN (who BTW started his 2+2 career with this post, yup its his first, anyone smell an older member and a name change?) who after BLOWING HIS SMALL BANKROLL claims that ALL INTERENT POKER IS RIGGED.
Did you hear me.....HIS FIRST POST!! Isnt that just a bit fishy in itself?

Ok, now I will tell you right now my account at the main site I play on is well over what I started with well over 2 years ago Ok? I know several players albeit not that many who started the same time that I did because I keep notes on people on my PC. We pretty much cover the spectrum of game limits and we have gone up and down the ladder at different times pretty much like in real life.
The problem seems to be that people in general think they are much better players that they really are and that you are gonna join a site and take the poker world by storm and when it doesnt happen it isnt because you had bad hand selection or played too many hands in the wrong kind of games, Oh no these clowns (like yourself, in fact just insert your name for clown Ok?) must really believe the sites fixed because I am such a great player that "I cant lose" right? In fact your such a great player that you are a proffessional right? Oh wait, no Im not either, hmmn then what am I? Oh I know now, I am a disgruntled poker fan who wont take the time to learn the game and in lieu of learning anything or getting a poker teacher will just badmouth the game of online play and scream from the rooftops about "The Illuminati"? Lol!!
Oh brother I cant believe that you got responses after writing that but here I am too, not really for you but in the hopes that the poor people who read this dont get led astray by a clown. The "Pied Piper" is the guy you are supposed to follow everybody, not clown's. The clown is here to make you laugh but you didnt realize that he was telling you a joke this time.
Ok, so like I said I have been a successful player since day 1, am I rich yet, no I am not close although to my detriment I have won a few tournies and blew thousands playing what we call middle limits but on the PC 10-20, 15-30 and 30-60 are gargantuan games cuz of that machine gun quick rate of games. I say this because I am honest and right now my account is in the very low end of 3 digits but you know what (yes all 3 digits are ABOVE the decimal point thank you very much!) I have NEVER lost an account that I didnt cash out from, in other words I NEVER ONCE lost my initial deposit and so I took a few hundred out of one online site when I decided its no good to have too many sites going because I was worrying about making this x-tourney on this x-site but playing in better ring games over here to make the daily cash and so forth Ok?
So I cashed out and played only at 2 sites and then cashed out again and left a few measley dollars on the one site just in case I want to play tourneys there. (in case the site changes the tourney amounts cuz the site I play at now is the BEST with tournies for the buck!)
So while yes, I guess the sites may want to increase thier player base without a doubt theres NO WAY ON GODS GREEN EARTH THAT ANY SITE WOULD TAKE A CHANCE AFTER WHAT HAPPENED TO PLANET POKER you dolt! They are making millions but they are gonna take a chance to make a few extra dollars and if they are ever found out they are not only finished BUT will be in court so fast that you have to be retarded to believe that they would fool with a legit million$ moneymaker. Ask yourself if it was your site would you take that chance? (clown answers do not count)
Lastly, you say you are a proffessional then why dont you tell us who you are and who your pro friends are and do your friends have the same opinion as you do on this subject? (clown friends also do not count)
I kinda doubt ALL you say and to think you actually made this your first post tells us A LOT about you my friend. I am writing up a paper now for people just starting out playing online poker at the lower limits, it will give direct examples of HOW TO read hands and explicit examples of 2 VERY COMMON mistakes made by people in the blind and the other is a flop formation that alone will put these starters so far ahead of the crowd because when they see this it will force them to think about other hands and look at the game from outside the box like a good player does, but you know that cuz your also a pro right? Ever won a tournament in the last couple of years either online or live that you can prove and if I name Pros in your area are they going to know you?
Anyone reading this remember that you can try online poker for just about free because of the bonuses, so if you like try it and if you lose your signup amount then you werent ready most probably and if you can keep that amount going then you already know plenty and for those of you who have kept thier acounts going how funny are these guys who post this stuff continually, I know there will be more people to claim this after blowing thier bankrolls but I am allowed to hope arent I? lol

[Rduke55]

A daytrader that loses at online poker. Amazing! I would have never guessed that a smart, risk-adverse person (as most daytraders are, you 9-to-5 suckers) could lose at online poker.

your 100% rite!Ive played pacific poker tournys for 1 yr.$2-$30 entries.these tournys hammer a good player!people defend the sites by saying they make tons of money so y would their software be rigged?well they didnt know how popular online poker would become when they created rake happy softwares.if u like going,up,down,empty play 10-20 man tournys on any site.the people that beleive this isnt true ,dont want it to be!ive studied this r a long time so save your money and play with your friends at home with a real deck!

For telling the truth you gotta know the truth. and not just assuming. you are maybe right but maybe not. where are your proofs?
i would like to know for sure whats going on at online poker sites. i heard many rumors about party poker and even more about poker stars. but again, just rumors - no proofs.

[theben]

im sure it is

[skiier04]

oh god not this again

[fearme]

hahahahahaahahahahhaahahhahhaahahahhahahahahhaahah ahahahhaha
ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahhaha hhahaha
online sites love me

[tonypaladino]

hooray!!!!!!

[BigBiceps]

[ QUOTE ]
Ivey couldn't win not because it is rigged against everyone, but just because Party Poker is racist.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yah, I thought that too, when the dealer icon was a black guy and all the players were white.