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Misfire
05-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Am I giving them too much weight?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t2270)
SB (t1715)
Hero (t1800)
UTG (t625)
UTG+1 (t1425)
MP1 (t2260)
MP2 (t2135)
CO (t2770)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t120</font>, UTG calls t120, UTG+1 folds, SB folds.

Turn: (t360) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t360</font>, Hero calls t360.

River: (t1080) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t115 (All-In)</font>, Hero ...

and now that I'm here do I call this w/ bottom pair?

JP Rocks
05-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Why bet the flop? Why then call the turn? I doubt all 17 outs are pure, as such you are probably not getting the right odds to call.

Save your t115 on the river crying call- unless you want to know how badly you are beaten.

Bigwig
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
I don't like betting this flop. Yes, you have a great drawing hand. Neither draw, however, is to the nuts. Your overcard (T) is very weak, and is a likely holding for somebody else. And you bet too much on the flop. No need to slap 120 out there. You don't have anything--yet.

Anyway, I think you should've put him all-in on the turn, or folded to his 360 bet. You don't have the correct odds to call that bed. Not with him holding 115 behind. And no, you shouldn't call that river bet. 1000-1 that you have the best hand. Even if he's drawing too, his high card is surely better.