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shant
05-10-2005, 09:07 PM
Villain is a fonk (74/4/2). This is the most erratic betting pattern I've ever seen so I just had to see what was going on. No?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.66 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 8.66 BB, between Hero and UTG+1.</font>
Pokey
05-10-2005, 09:09 PM
Lemme guess...he shows you KK and YHING.
shant
05-10-2005, 09:12 PM
So is your suggestion to fold to the turn bet?
Pokey
05-10-2005, 09:14 PM
A fish is betting. He might have nothing, but he bet into the flop bettor. You might be ahead, but if you are it's by a hair. If you're behind, you've got 6 outs to win. I don't think this hand is worth going to war -- I dump it on the turn.

<font color="blue">Edit to say: another great reason to fold this turn is that the pot is rather small, and it's going to cost you two more to see the showdown.</font>
New001
05-10-2005, 09:15 PM
Probably fold the river for sure. I hate it when they do that, even if it probably saves you money.
brazilio
05-10-2005, 09:16 PM
The only reason I wouldn't see the river is because the pot's small, and I'm having to pay 2SBs to see showdown. And I have no idea why you'd call the turn but fold on the river.
mr pink
05-10-2005, 09:47 PM
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Villain is a fonk

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for starters, that's awesome.

i probably play the hand the same, although i might have seen this line before. he limps EP with a middling pocket pair, you raise and it gets HU. he then 3-bets hoping you're on just overcards and it will be easier to fold you off of your potential outs if he to limp reraises to represent AA/KK or some other fuckwad hand. they usually play this hand fast on the flop (trying to get you off overcards or whatever) so i don't get the flop check... possibly 66?
bennyk
05-10-2005, 09:48 PM
this doesn't seem erratic...it feels like he has a pocket pair.

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private joker
05-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Yeah, I think he's got 55, 77, or 88-ish type of hand. I'd consider folding the river because I don't think he has AJ or KQ, and you don't beat much else.
shant
05-11-2005, 01:57 AM
OK he had 89o. Did I get lucky?
jason_t
05-11-2005, 01:58 AM
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OK he had 89o. Did I get lucky?

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I piss on limp reraisers.
shant
05-11-2005, 02:03 AM
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OK he had 89o. Did I get lucky?

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I piss on limp reraisers.

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Yeah, but if I was gonna piss jason_t style I should've capped preflop.
sfer
05-11-2005, 12:59 PM
Cap preflop and get yer azz to showdown cheaply unimproved.
sfer
05-11-2005, 01:00 PM
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Probably fold the river for sure. I hate it when they do that, even if it probably saves you money.

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Calling the turn and folding the river is the worst line that comes immediately to mind.
chief444
05-11-2005, 01:08 PM
I'd cap preflop here. I think more often than not this limp/reraise is junk.

With the way this played out and the numbers you gave on the opponent I can't believe how many people are advocating folding the river. I think this is a very easy river call on a 44467 board getting better than 7.5:1.
Redeye
05-11-2005, 01:23 PM
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OK he had 89o. Did I get lucky?


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When I have a decent ace, I almost always call down a LLRer unimproved. I'm way more likely to assume they have complete BS when they try this than a hand. I'm never suprised to see stuff like Axs, Kxs, 78s, 44, ect.