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MadMat
05-10-2005, 05:59 PM
CO is a no-foldem calling station, reasonably tight preflop, but then almost always sees the river, Aggro of .6, so certainly capable of just calling the turn bet if the Ace hit him!

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB
irishpint
05-10-2005, 06:03 PM
YES
toss
05-10-2005, 06:06 PM
Why should you bet this river? He'll have a worse hand much more than he'll have an Ace. Therfore you must bet.
LowDown22
05-10-2005, 06:10 PM
What are the possible hands you think he could have?

I see him calling only if he has an Ace or Ten or a pocket pair. Trip 2s would have almost certainly raised the turn, anything else will almost certainly fold.

I would lean towards betting here.
toss
05-10-2005, 06:16 PM
What other hands could he have?

The original poster said that villain almost always goes to showdown. This implies he'll showdown with any piece of the board or 9 high.
afk
05-10-2005, 06:18 PM
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anything else will almost certainly fold.

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Even if hero describes villain as a "no-foldem calling station"?

I say bet ye olde river.
tiltaholic
05-10-2005, 06:20 PM
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Why should you bet this river? He'll have a worse hand much more than he'll have an Ace. Therfore you must bet.

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and not only will his hand be worse but he will also call!

bet the river...
LowDown22
05-10-2005, 06:21 PM
He said he'll go to river not showdown. Even the worst players would rarely showdown with just a high card here.

Anyway, I did agree we should bet this river though.
MadMat
05-10-2005, 06:22 PM
Looking back at it I think I may have been a little over cautious, I had played about 60 hands with this guy, and twice saw him suck-out on other people with A-rag in that time. I had mentally pegged him as an Ace-chaser

FWIW

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qd Qc (two pair, queens and twos).
CO has Ts Qh (two pair, tens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 5.75 BB. </font>
afk
05-10-2005, 06:24 PM
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Even the worst players would rarely showdown with just a high card here.

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Agreed but I wouldn't be surprised to also see a lot of mid pocket pairs calling.
aK13
05-10-2005, 06:40 PM
This is a definite value bet on the river.

However, do we call or fold to a raise here?