Do you push here ?

[Ryendal]

***** Hand History for Game 2027324096 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament
***** Hand History for Game 2027324096 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12081866) - Tue May 10 09:14:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 39781 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: GOLIONS1 (1130)
Seat 4: HERO (2540)
Seat 8: cujo2100 (1325)
Seat 9: grutze (3005)
cujo2100 posts small blind (150)
grutze posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5d, 5h ]
GOLIONS1 folds.

[Ryendal]

Well, since the BB is a big stack I don't think it's so important to push here. We have yet a good stack ...
For me it's a fold

[fortextreme]

Yes, but you only have t500 less than the BB so if you push he has to pick up an extremlly good hand to call you with. The other two stacks are soo low that it would be stupid of him to call with anything less than a premium holding.

I guess it may be dependent on what level SnG this is. I push this in a $20/$30 but may not a $5/$10. Also what reads do you have on the BB?

[Sykes]

Push. I play for first here.

[Ryendal]

Well I put the BB'call on 44+, A7+ and SB on 22+,A2+,KQ

[shejk]

With your given range for the bb I'd fold without thinking twice about it.

[dfscott]

[ QUOTE ]
With your given range for the bb I'd fold without thinking twice about it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? I don't think your 2nd place chip lead is that great, and this is +1.5% EV to push.

[Ryendal]

No, you are wrong, it's not +1.5 EV /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[dfscott]

[ QUOTE ]
No, you are wrong, it's not +1.5 EV /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

My bad. I misread the blinds. It's basically a coin-flip (+0.1%)

[tminus]

id figure 'cujo' as fold equity and push

[curtains]

Yeah but most of the time the BB's range won't be that loose, especially if this isnt a $11 table. I mean I routinely go allin and have to sit there and watch the chat as my opponent tells me they have AT or AJ and then they fold, in similar situations.

[curtains]

Btw I hate folding, I would consider a decent sized raise however. Most people aren't creative enough to reraise with nothing there....plenty of people will just play ultra tight since you are the only one that can bust them. Anyway this is a possible way to play against uncreative opponents, as really they fold a large majority of the time.

[MSUcougar]

[ QUOTE ]
Btw I hate folding, I would consider a decent sized raise however. Most people aren't creative enough to reraise with nothing there....plenty of people will just play ultra tight since you are the only one that can bust them. Anyway this is a possible way to play against uncreative opponents, as really they fold a large majority of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]
I agree that folding is bad, but personally I think a "decent sized raise" (ie to 800) is the perfect amount to see BB's stack shoved right back in your face. If I'm BB here, I push over the top of this raise with a wide range of hands, because the majority of the time it means "I have a decent hand and would like to take your blind, but don't want to risk my whole stack to do it."

Unless you've been pushing almost every hand on the bubble, I push here confidently.

[Ryendal]

from 2 weeks I'm playing 10$ to creates a new bankroll on my new account. And somewhat strangely it's not so easy ...

And yes I forget to say that my image was a big blind stealer in this game

[Ryendal]

And since It's a coin flip EV in this game and I believe I'm stronger than them, I wait for a better move.

[Ryendal]

[ QUOTE ]
Btw I hate folding, I would consider a decent sized raise however. Most people aren't creative enough to reraise with nothing there....plenty of people will just play ultra tight since you are the only one that can bust them. Anyway this is a possible way to play against uncreative opponents, as really they fold a large majority of the time.


[/ QUOTE ]
I'm not sure but I believe that creatives moves are easier at highers levels because at lowers ones there are more "(crazy bad) moves or unexpected calls or whatever" .

" Reads " are not easy, while at highers levels, they know themselves, especially at 200$+ levels.

But I guess there are some "meta-reads" including some meta-bet-patterns bringing us in creatives moves applicable in multitabling for example /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Well, something like that /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[tminus]

that makes a huge difference to me because in that case you'd probably get a few people calling with Ax Kx or higher pair