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dawade
05-09-2005, 12:19 AM
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (10.25 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB
KaiShin
05-09-2005, 12:23 AM
Its not a check/raise, and no. Of course, it depends totally on CO's read.

I'd probably have just called his flop raise, then call down from there.
Greg J
05-09-2005, 12:28 AM
I like the flop 3 bet, slow down to a cap line better than just calling down after he raises the flop. At least against most opponents. I don't think KK-AA until he caps.
this guy
05-09-2005, 12:34 AM
I'm pretty sure you're beat here most of the time the way villian played it pf and on the flop, it looks like a big pair assuming he's not a total donk. J-J, K-K, and A-A all beat you, you split with Q-Q, and if you're lucky he'll turn over A-K or 10-10 though it doesn't seem very likely. You're getting 13-1 though, so I think you can call this.
KaiShin
05-09-2005, 12:40 AM
Yeah well, I'm going through a weak phase atm, so that's my excuse /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Ianco15
05-09-2005, 12:52 AM
River is a call getting 13-1.
Maurader1
05-09-2005, 01:37 AM
I think I am in weak mode also, but against anything other than a maniac, do we actually think we will be good 1/13 times? Do you think anything less than Qs will really raise the river after all that action pf and flop?

If I were villain, and I had AA-JJ, and that flop came, I would be taking a WA/WB line no?