For those who question the games at the Taj...Trip report..

[Mike Gallo]

I had made plans with poster Avid to meet up at the Taj around 5:00 am Saturday morning. We would play in the ring games until the 11:00 am weekly $100+$20 no limit tournament.

I did not arrive at the poker room until 9:00 am. I needed to sleep in. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I met up with Avid, registered for the tournament and then I looked for a game to jump into. Avid had an open seat in his $20 game, however thats higher then I want to play.

I jumped into a $1-$2 no limit max $300 buy in game and decided to play in that game until the tournament started. I walked by the table and it had a few empty seats. I asked the dealer if they had a list, and one of the players invited me to sit with the..." we need new blood"...Rounders type quote. I found it amusing. It came from a player who Fred G Sanford and I refer to as the standard issue. He had on the sunglasses,the baseball cap and the hooded sweatshirt.

The game featured players still playing from the previous night. Nobody had a tremendous stack and nobody played particularly well.

The table had one really bad player who played all his hands to the river then rebought up to $300 if he lost.

I flopped the nut flush against this player and extracted the max ($220) from him.

In another hand he tried to check raise me on the turn and on the river. He turned trip Queens against my AK on a final board of KQ7Q4.

I picked up Kings and a player reraised me his entire stack of 270 with 77. I flopped a set and never looked back.

I left the table at 10:45 up $500. I had the tournament paid for and I picked up $400. Nice way to start the day.

I played the tournament and had to fold most of the hands I open raised with.

I lost a raise with AK against JJ and became crippled. I got blinded out during the fourth level. Thats poker /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I jumped right into a brand new $10-$20 game at noon. They started the game as a must move table, however it turned into a main game as the day progressed.

The game had some really bad players. Poster Poker237 jumped into the game around 1:00 pm. He sat to my left and we got to chat a bit. We both agreed with Jeffage, the Taj has better games then the Borgata. Players did not mind calling raises and would call down with any piece of the flop. These players only raised or reraised with the goods. These players played loose passive, most of the players at the Borgata play tight passive. I prefer loose passive games.

I got to play with AC legend Tiger123. I saw him fold AQ face up on the turn to a board of QdQx4d9d . He bet, a straight forward player raised him and he folded face up. She showed down the AdJd. Bad laydown there Tiger, bad laydown /images/graemlins/confused.gif Tiger sat in the 10 seat, I sat in the 1 seat and Poker237 sat in the 2 seat.

I left the table and the room at 4:30 up 25 big bets in the $10 game.

Although the Taj poker room looks antiquated and the chips have a coating of filth, I recommend this room in terms of game selection over the Borgata.

The bad players and the good games will overcome the atmosphere and decor in my game selection.

[Bremen]

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I got to play with AC legend Tiger123.

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Is he the guy who never shuts up and is always talking about how he's been married 4 times etc etc?

[Mike Gallo]

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I got to play with AC legend Tiger123.

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Is he the guy who never shuts up and is always talking about how he's been married 4 times etc etc?

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He talks about that among other things.

[Bremen]

Ok, thought that was him. I played with him once at the Borg 6/12. I was thoroughly unimpressed.

[Mike Gallo]

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Ok, thought that was him. I played with him once at the Borg 6/12. I was thoroughly unimpressed.

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Thats him, dont forget the handlebar mustache.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Although the Taj poker room looks antiquated and the chips have a coating of filth, I recommend this room in terms of game selection over the Borgata.

The bad players and the good games will overcome the atmosphere and decor in my game selection.

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I have said it many times before... Mike is generally correct.

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[jar]

I played with Tiger in the Borg 6/12 on my first trip to AC. What an intro to a new cardroom. He limp reraised with KJo, and turned trip jacks to crack my aces. The other thing he loves to talk about is how he helped write the rulebook at six hundred cardrooms.

I would've loved to have seen him get tossed from the Borg for list jumping a couple weeks/months back.

[Maura]

Previously the Taj 5/10 (and 10/20?) was described as
a rock garden, so have been playing the 6/12 at the Borg
.... apparently that's changed?

(besides, I can't get a room at the poker rate at the Taj and always can at the Borg)

~Maura

BTW - i'll be in AC next weekend and look for your pyramid /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Luv2DriveTT]

I have only played in the 5/10 once. It was no rock garden, however I can see how people can experience that is so since the game is played with all red chips.

The 10/20 was a donktastic parade of bad bets. Loose passive idiots who don't feel worthy enough to hang out at the Borg fill that game, its g00t.


On a related note, the texture of any game as well as any room changes day to day, month to month, year to year. It makes sense why the better players have gravitated to the Borg, hence why it also makes sense to spend time at the other rooms around AC.

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[Mike Gallo]

BTW - i'll be in AC next weekend and look for your pyramid

Cool. I will look out for you Dennis.

[greg nice]

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Although the Taj poker room looks antiquated and the chips have a coating of filth, I recommend this room in terms of game selection over the Borgata.


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interesting. i will try the 1/2 NL at taj next time im down. the borgata is a pretty good game..

[DrPublo]

Does the Taj spread a bigger NL game yet?

The Doc

[poker327]

The Taj was only spreading a 1/2 and 2/5 on Saturday.

As Mike stated, I agree with him. The game in the afternoon was one of the better games I can remember in a long time. There was usually 5-6 on every flop, and if they had it, they bet. It was loose and passive. Unforunately, I was going card dead, so I went to Borgata for dinner, and then I was rivered left and right in a short game with drunk people who didn't know how to play and left down for the evening. I will play in the Taj more.

A woman in seat 6 or 7 got into a little argument with Tiger123, but nothing too heated.

[bunky9590]

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Avid had an open seat in his $20 game, however thats higher then I can beat

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FYP bro.

Oh yeah, one other note, beating up on Tiger is wicked fun.

Pulled a bunky on him one night where I open raised 67s in the CO he three bet from the SB and we went HU. I flopped the nut straight and went three bets with him on the flop, blank hits the turn and we go 5 bets, river 2 bets and I show down my cheese, he flopped a set of 8's. He proceeded to go off. The man can lay a beat and berate fish, but sure as heck can't take one.

Funny how he declined to go play me in 20-40 though. He kept pretty much quiet after that as I assulted his blind unmercifully.

[Mike Gallo]

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Does the Taj spread a bigger NL game yet?

The Doc

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1-2 $300 max
2-5 $500 max
5-10 $ minimum

[Mike Gallo]

A woman in seat 6 or 7 got into a little argument with Tiger123, but nothing too heated.

Thats when he folded his AQ face up.

I don't mind the guy. I have played against him since I have started playing poker. I do not like it when he berates other players.

[Mike Gallo]

I would've loved to have seen him get tossed from the Borg for list jumping a couple weeks/months back.

CCx and I played in the game that it happened in.
CCx moved to another table because CCx had too many Heinekens and would have gotten violent with Tiger. Since I prefer the company of CCx over Tiger, I informed the floor that Tiger took someone elses initials. Tiger got bounced CCx moved back to the table, and order became restored in the Borgata poker universe.

[Mike Gallo]

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Previously the Taj 5/10 (and 10/20?) was described as
a rock garden, so have been playing the 6/12 at the Borg
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Yes. Back in the day, the $5-$10 game was a pretty tough game. Same with the $10-$20 game.

That has changed.

[Mike Gallo]

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Avid had an open seat in his $20 game, however thats higher then I can beat


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FYP bro.

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..lol...was that a poke at me /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Mike Gallo]

On a related note, the texture of any game as well as any room changes day to day, month to month, year to year. It makes sense why the better players have gravitated to the Borg, hence why it also makes sense to spend time at the other rooms around AC.

Excellent point.

[bunky9590]

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Avid had an open seat in his $20 game, however thats higher then I can beat


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FYP bro.


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..lol...was that a poke at me

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/images/graemlins/blush.gif Nah, just kidding around. Stay in those 10-20 games with that Taj crew they're wicked profitable.

Anyway, Matt is wicked good, especially live.

I haven't been to the Taj since the Borg opened to play, I may have to stop back if the games are that soft? They still spread a 30-60?

[bunky9590]

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I would've loved to have seen him get tossed from the Borg for list jumping a couple weeks/months back.

CCx and I played in the game that it happened in.
CCx moved to another table because CCx had too many Heinekens and would have gotten violent with Tiger. Since I prefer the company of CCx over Tiger, I informed the floor that Tiger took someone elses initials. Tiger got bounced CCx moved back to the table, and order became restored in the Borgata poker universe.

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Thank god you weren't at the 20-40 Table with Matt, when I was talking to Ccx and jumped like a 28 long line for the 20-40 and sat right in Matt's game. There were people standing for like 2 hous with chips waiting to get in, I cue jumped and sat right in. Joe the floor guy looks at me and Smiles , winks and goes, take youre seat "EH"

Joe gets a nice Xmas present this year.

[Jeffage]

Sorry I missed the gathering...gave my family some face time, it being Mother's Day and all /images/graemlins/cool.gif. I'll probably be down over Memorial Day Weekend. I agree with you about the Taj, though I wish they could get some bigger games going. They used to spread 50-100 24-7, now they can't get it going on Saturday nights. But the 20 is wicked good, and I'm really getting into the 30 stud game there (though I'm not sure if I play it that well, we'll see). Borg 40-80 is a great game though. 20-40 was good also the last time I played it there (last Sunday). I think both rooms have plusses and minuses and it's to the player's advantage not to become married to a room b/c conditions change.

Jeff

[Jeffage]

Ugh. I can understand the temptation to do this, but I would never do it myself. If everyone did stuff like this, cardrooms would be anarchy. I do think Taj manages their lists better than Borg.

Jeff

[CCx]

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I would've loved to have seen him get tossed from the Borg for list jumping a couple weeks/months back.

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If you ever see both of us at the same table, I promise it'll be interesting... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[CCx]

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CCx moved to another table because CCx had too many Heinekens and would have gotten violent with Tiger.

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Please note, the quantity of beer consumed had nothing to do with wanting to get violent with the guy - that happens when I'm sober, too. /images/graemlins/grin.gif I gotta get down there again soon....

[CCx]

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Thank god you weren't at the 20-40 Table with Matt, when I was talking to Ccx and jumped like a 28 long line for the 20-40 and sat right in Matt's game.

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Your list-jumping skills are undoubtedly world class, I think of them often as I continue to work on my own /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[CCx]

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I'll probably be down over Memorial Day Weekend.

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Do you (or anyone) happen to know if they give out the poker rate (or any casino does) on the holiday weekends?

[Jeffage]

Borg and Taj have no rooms. Search around for other hotels/motels, but you will definitely pay more than usual.

Jeff

[CCx]

Gotcha, thanks - any suggestions on respectable places to stay closeby to the Borg?

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Gotcha, thanks - any suggestions on respectable places to stay closeby to the Borg?

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MG can advise, Absecan hotels are the best option.

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[Mike Gallo]

They still spread a 30-60?

Nothing higher then $20-$40 except for when they spread a $50-$100 game and it goes. Mixed games, thats a different story. They had 400-800 two way and 300-600 three way game.

I haven't been to the Taj since the Borg opened to play, I may have to stop back if the games are that soft? They

Your style would work perfect in these games.

[Mike Gallo]

Gotcha, thanks - any suggestions on respectable places to stay closeby to the Borg?

Stay in Absecon on Route 30 for $60 a night and a 10 minute drive to the poker room. Do an Expedia search on hotels in Absecon on Route 30.

[AviD]

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I would've loved to have seen him get tossed from the Borg for list jumping a couple weeks/months back.

CCx and I played in the game that it happened in.
CCx moved to another table because CCx had too many Heinekens and would have gotten violent with Tiger. Since I prefer the company of CCx over Tiger, I informed the floor that Tiger took someone elses initials. Tiger got bounced CCx moved back to the table, and order became restored in the Borgata poker universe.

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Thank god you weren't at the 20-40 Table with Matt, when I was talking to Ccx and jumped like a 28 long line for the 20-40 and sat right in Matt's game. There were people standing for like 2 hous with chips waiting to get in, I cue jumped and sat right in. Joe the floor guy looks at me and Smiles , winks and goes, take youre seat "EH"

Joe gets a nice Xmas present this year.

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Haha that owned!

There were like 5 players standing with racks in their hands waiting to get in the game and Bunky strolls in and sits immediately.

Good Times! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[AviD]

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I'll probably be down over Memorial Day Weekend.

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Do you (or anyone) happen to know if they give out the poker rate (or any casino does) on the holiday weekends?

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I called last week...the Borg doesn't have any poker rated rooms available until July...yes JULY!

WTFFFFFFFFFFFF I may be down for a day or two that weekend...we'll see. At the rate I'm running lately I might be railbirding it with a donation cup looking to get into a .5/1 side game at the grill side lounge!

[AviD]

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Gotcha, thanks - any suggestions on respectable places to stay closeby to the Borg?

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Take the skirt off, pitch a tent in the Borgata garage. Bring a cooler and propane grill...YER IN! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[tpir90036]

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I got to play with AC legend Tiger123.

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I like to think I am a nice guy.... and I like playing with weird characters and having a good time at the table. But this guys is a douche for reasons already hit on by other posts.

Here is his sweet bio as well a picture of him dressed like a moron:
http://www.gocee.com/poker/trips/tigerbio.htm

[tpir90036]

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It makes sense why the better players have gravitated to the Borg, hence why it also makes sense to spend time at the other rooms around AC.

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My friend was telling me his theory of the Borg games being slightly tougher for this reason... but I just didn't see it the past few times I was there. Granted, my sample size is extremely tiny. But the 15/30 and 20/40 games at both places were both swimming pools filled with pillows as far as I could see. (That means they were really, really soft).

One of you AC regulars needs to do some data mining of all the tables and make up some spreadsheets /images/graemlins/wink.gif

-tpir

[CCx]

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Here is his sweet bio as well a picture of him dressed like a moron:
http://www.gocee.com/poker/trips/tigerbio.htm

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You know, it's been a while since I laughed so hard that I cried on a Monday....thanks for that /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[CCx]

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Take the skirt off, pitch a tent in the Borgata garage. Bring a cooler and propane grill...YER IN! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yea...I'd have no problem sleeping in the garage - but the better half has been bugging me and bugging me to go to the nightclub at the Borgata since every time I walk out of the place late Saturday nights/early Sunday mornings and call to tell her I'm on my way home, I tell her of some of the amazing talent hovering around (when I can see past all the fat chicks) ....she wants to see for herself - so I figure modest accomodations are in order if I'm bringing someone along who's not a total and complete degenerate like myself... as for the "take off the skirt and pitch a tent" part, well my friend, based on the previous few sentences I think that would be mandatory in this situation /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/crazy.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[tpir90036]

I couldn't help myself. The odd thing is that he told me how to find that page when I first played with him. I tried to be a nice guy and chat him up since the tourists at the table did not care about RGP or his touring of the tables... but after the 3rd time he gave me a 2 minute staredown when I raised his blind... I was like, "c'mon dude... the rest of the zoo wants to play too." The table had a good laugh...he did not.

He ended up burning through about a rack trying to "outplay" some young rich kids who had no idea that folding was part of the rules and then throwing them snide remarks. Nice hands sir. I like my way of keeping the game loose and fun better...

[AviD]

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Take the skirt off, pitch a tent in the Borgata garage. Bring a cooler and propane grill...YER IN! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yea...I'd have no problem sleeping in the garage - but the better half has been bugging me and bugging me to go to the nightclub at the Borgata since every time I walk out of the place late Saturday nights/early Sunday mornings and call to tell her I'm on my way home, I tell her of some of the amazing talent hovering around (when I can see past all the fat chicks) ....she wants to see for herself - so I figure modest accomodations are in order if I'm bringing someone along who's not a total and complete degenerate like myself... as for the "take off the skirt and pitch a tent" part, well my friend, based on the previous few sentences I think that would be mandatory in this situation /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/crazy.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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haha nh /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[poker327]

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But the 15/30 and 20/40 games at both places were both swimming pools filled with pillows as far as I could see. (That means they were really, really soft).


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I have never seen a 15/30 Hold'Em game at Borgata. Was this is the distant past?

[Jeffage]

When Borg first opened, they would spread 15-30 sometimes.

Jeff

[mostsmooth]

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When Borg first opened, they would spread 15-30 sometimes.

Jeff

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and they dont do it now (ive been told) because it hurts the 10-20 and 20-40 games.
a few months ago we wanted to change the 15-30-45 stud game to a 15-30 HOSE, but they wouldnt let us because of the H.

[Jeffage]

Yea this makes sense. Borg doesn't have the player base to spread 10-20, 15-30 and 20-40 (as Taj does). 15 would def hurt their 20 games, esp. during slow times. I almost played the 15-30-45 stud game last time...how is it?

Jeff

[mostsmooth]

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Yea this makes sense. Borg doesn't have the player base to spread 10-20, 15-30 and 20-40 (as Taj does). 15 would def hurt their 20 games, esp. during slow times. I almost played the 15-30-45 stud game last time...how is it?

Jeff

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i havent played very much stud since starting HE, but i do know that usually the players in that game are pretty bad. once in a while 1 or 2 in the game have a clue.

[tpir90036]

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But the 15/30 and 20/40 games at both places were both swimming pools filled with pillows as far as I could see. (That means they were really, really soft).


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I have never seen a 15/30 Hold'Em game at Borgata. Was this is the distant past?

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I should have said "respectively" or something. Borgata spread 15 back in the day... but that was not what I meant.

[Mike Gallo]

When the Borgata first opened they spread a $15 game. The game did not go strong because players preferred the $20 game.

I asked recently if they could start a $15 list, and the brush told me the Borgata cannot run that game. I don't know if thats the patronizing answer.

I do know that the Borgata cannot spread $5-$10 hold em. One night a few of us wanted to play a 5-10 3 way game and they would not spread it.

[slamdunkpro]

I asked Stan the Poker room manager about this some time ago. His answer was that you have to cut off the game selection somewhere as each game requires (per AC gaming) a procedure book, placards, and other items that the players don't see.

In the begining there was some latitued as to spreads until the Borg established their "spreads" 3/6 10/20 and 20/40 were more popular than 5/10 and 15/30 so the decision was made to go 10/20 20/40 40/80 80/160.