Microbob in need of a sweat (immediately!)

[AwesomeAli]

Hes playing a poker stars $160 double shootout tourney # 7676014 for the wsop.

He has made an amazing comeback from 260 chips and is now 2nd chippie.

Come sweat him with me /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Be quick tho - only 7 peeps left

Ali

[AwesomeAli]

hes just moved into the chip lead

6 left

[TheTimeIsUp]

Whats his handle?

[MicroBob]

i seem to see you all the time. how the hell do you only have 300 posts?

[busguy]

Micro,

Shouldn't you be focusing ??


busguy

[AwesomeAli]

LOL, im very shy /images/graemlins/blush.gif

and contrary to popular belief, I have NOT been around /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ali

[AwesomeAli]

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Whats his handle?


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GO to the tourney and open up the table - all will become apparent /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Ali

[TheTimeIsUp]

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Whats his handle?


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GO to the tourney and open up the table - all will become apparent /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Ali

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Doesn't look apparent to me /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[12ozLongneck]

Kill 'em all, Bob.

[TomBrooks]

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky

[BusterStacks]

Lol, keep looking.

[AwesomeAli]

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I have to sign up with PokerStars. I will do it right now. What is the best site to go through? I just spent 17minutes looking for an affiliate and couldn't find one.


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No affiliates for stars.

go str8 to their site and d/l the software. By the time youve done all that bob will have won /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ali

[iluzion]

hes area, right?

[cbfair]

Nice Hand Bob!!!

[AwesomeAli]

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hes area, right?

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errrrr, no!

Seat 8

[iluzion]

oh wow, hes zorac?

id chat there, but i dont have $160 in stars.

[AwesomeAli]

hes heads up!

Chippie!!!!

GOOOOOOO BOB!

[12ozLongneck]

Got him on the ropes! Go Bob!

[william deangelis]

Microbob has T8800 or so heads up to T3800. Opponent offers Bob a deal, winner transfers $1000 to loser. Bob stalls, after some raising opponent is all in. Bob calls with AJo vs. 88. Bob losses, now Bob has T4800 or so and then takes up opponent on offer. Awesome

[Zapper]

What a turn!!!!

[KingDan]

I've been watching for a while, but recently cashed out stars.

Good luck.

He doubled up a4 -> jj , at the moment down 8800->5500.

[mosta]

how does this deal work? if the deal was taken, big stack gets first and transfers the amount? this is a $10k wsop entry? I'm confused because area23 went from short stack to big stack but kept trying to deal. so was he going to keep the seat when he was big stack, or what he charging more for bob to get the seat?

[iluzion]

I should be sleeping, but it's interesting watching a fellow 2+2er whos helped me learn alot trying to win a WSOP seat.

[KingDan]

Whoever wins gives the loser 1k.

[BusterStacks]

OMG!!! 33!!

[iluzion]

That was one hell of a river bob!! GL.

[12ozLongneck]

Bob 33 vs 88. Bob rivers a 3.

[mosta]

they stop playing, or they play it out still? for the $1k, or whatever.

[Boltsfan1992]

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OMG!!! 33!!

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river card of the night...

[iluzion]

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river card of the night...

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[MicroBob]

thanks for the sweat all.

without going through the whole thread right now (we're on break) i'm sure it's being well documented what i luck-box I am being heads-up with A4o and 33.


grand fun. good times.

woot woot.

[ewile]

Go Bob!!! Represent the ZOO!!!

[Bv3]

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grand fun. good times.


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I think JC would disagree.

[iluzion]

does stars offer these double shootout type tourneys at small stakes?

[william deangelis]

congrats bob

[iluzion]

CONGRATS!!

[KKbluff]

nice full house!

[Bv3]

congrats bob

[AwesomeAli]

Dealer: Zorac wins the tournament - congratulations!


WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


well played bob

Ali

[Hiding]

congrats bob!

[lorinda]

Ding!

GL in Vegas Bob.

Lori

[Losing all]

Awesome dude! GL at the big one.

[ewile]

YEAH BABY!!!

VEGAS.

[12ozLongneck]

Congrats, Bob. Best of luck in Vegas.

[Derek in NYC]

Great game Bob. I really wanted to see you stick it to the dickhead.

[jack_of_hearts]

great job Bob.

stupid double shootout question but how do these things work. I think I am going to place high enough to win entry in one tonight and never played one. Should I play or cash out and just buy into a $33R instead?

[Boltsfan1992]

I'm glad I stayed up for that.

Congratulations Bob...good luck in Vegas.

Now...I got to get some sleep...

PB

[MicroBob]

it just ended. i can't stop shaking.

grand fun.

thanks for the sweat everyone. you clearly did bring me the ultimate zoo luck.

i'm going to put up a quick post on my blog so that my parents and others see it tomorrow...and then i'm going drinking.


thanks again for the sweat. that 33 hand would never have come through without you guys.

[Jim Kuhn]

Congrats Bob!!!! Bring the WSOP home to the Zoo!!

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
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[KingDan]

Congrats, good luck in Vegas.

Don't forget your shades.

[nnoobi]

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great job Bob.

stupid double shootout question but how do these things work. I think I am going to place high enough to win entry in one tonight and never played one. Should I play or cash out and just buy into a $33R instead?

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It's basically 9 SnG's where the winner of each table win entry into another SnG where the winner of that wins an entry to WSOP. Other 1st round winners generally win their entry fee.

shootout info (http://www.pokerstars.com/tournaments2.html)

[ewile]

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Congrats Bob!!!! Bring the WSOP home to the Zoo!!

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How sick would that be.

[TomBrooks]

I just got signed up to PokerStars. LoL. Too late. Well, I was going to do it anyway.

So you won? Incredible. Fantastic! Now there's going to be three 2+2ers at the final table of the WSOP.

You won that cruise and now a seat? You must play gOOt.

[Jim Kuhn]

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thanks for the sweat all.

without going through the whole thread right now (we're on break) i'm sure it's being well documented what i luck-box I am being heads-up with A4o and 33.

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Nobody wins a tourney without some degree of luck. If you have bad luck one hand you are out of the tourney. To win takes a lot of skill but also a little bit of luck. Congrats and very well played. You will have an awesome time at the WSOP. Have a good time tonight and be careful.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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[Corey]

good times!

See, wasn't that easier than your day and night quest for the PP cruise?

See ya in Vegas!

[Synergistic Explosions]

Its great seeing an all round good guy get what he deserves.

Congrats Bob.

[usmfan]

Great win. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. This means that I get to meet Bob along with the other 22ers at the WSOP get together in Vegas. Of course, I still have to win my seat.

[this guy]

Congratulations Bob! Good luck in Vegas!

[Jurollo]

Alright Bob! Something about rivering sets for us trout while heads up for the WSOP, hopefully we can meet up for a drink in Vegas.

~Justin

[M.B.E.]

Congrats. Was this (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=18856) the guy you beat?

[daryn]

very very nice

gl

[razor]

Nice!

gl

[mistrpug]

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Its great seeing an all round good guy get what he deserves.

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Well done Bob, good luck!

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

Nice!!

GL in LV.

-Craig

[jasonHoldEm]

woo-hoo! Congrats bob!

J

[NateDog]

GL Bob. I'll watch your cat.

[RaiNz]

Congrats and GL Bob!!

[Shoe]

Just got home from the bars and I see that you won, congrats!!!! And good luck in Vegas!!! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[goodguy_1]

Congrats Bob nice work go get em! Good to see all that work you've been doing on your tourney play is paying off in spades. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[bugstud]

well done sir...now I need to win mine already... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Sheriff Fatman]

Congrats Bob - great stuff.

Sheriff

[IndieMatty]

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Its great seeing an all round good guy get what he deserves.

Congrats Bob.

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[SoftcoreRevolt]

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Its great seeing an all round good guy get what he deserves.

Congrats Bob.

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Quoted for truth. Bob is the best of all two plus twoers. THE MAN SLOW DANCED WITH MIKE SEXTON! (and slipped tongue)

[zaphod]

Well done!

[Hung]

darn, now I want to go too!

[iluzion]

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Its great seeing an all round good guy get what he deserves.

Congrats Bob.

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Quoted for truth. Bob is the best of all two plus twoers.

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[La Brujita]

Congrats Bob, best of luck to you!!!!!!!!

[Siingo]

Congrats!!!!

[Freudian]

Congrats. Luckbox = teh win

[SomethingClever]

NH MB!

GLITWSOP!!!!!!!! OMGLOL

[solucky]

congrats and hope you send us a few news:)

[TStoneMBD]

wish i got to see it. congratulations

[nolanfan34]

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wish i got to see it. congratulations

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What he said. Good work Bob!

[Bubu]

Congratulations - Way to go !

[tdarko]

looks like i should have stayed up for this one, congrats bob and represent in vegas! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MicroBob]

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Was this the guy you beat?

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holy crap. seems likely.

the guy's name on stars was area231JC and I believe his home-town was lsited as SAC.

This guy's name is J.C. and he is from Sacramento.


That's a helluva impressive list of money-finishes on that link. Obviously he's played in several others on top of that.

I wasn't terribly impressed with his play to be honest. There were 2 or 3 other guys at that table that struck me as stronger.

My play against him heads-up was nothing to brag about either and I thought it was approaching 'Battle of the Idiots' proportions at times.

Oh well....that's really interesting that you found that link. How on earth did you find that guy??



When I offered to give him the seat for $3500 I thought it was a reasonable deal still...and might have been willing to settle at $3000. I'm glad I didn't obviously.
I think I had around 3k in chips to his 10k at the time.
I didn't think $2500 was a very good deal.
Remember...this is a package worth $11k+ ($10k seat...$1k cash...PLUS the free hotel stay for wearing their crap).
So I really did think $3500 was reasonable considering there really was an actual chance I could come back (obviously).


I had used most of my time already on a couple of other hands (I think the time-clock carries over from the first round actually) so I really didn't have time to fully analyze it and figure out what the hell I was trying to do with my hand and settle down my nerves and think about the deal all at the same time.

And I wasn't particularly interested in sitting-out either to discuss it and just letting the blinds and antes rise.

Plus...if the sit-out takes place at the wrong-time and then we resume play at the wrong-time it could really work to my disadvantage if I have to play from the BB twice in a row.
And I'm not sure I trusted him enough to not try to steal-away.

As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread...he really was kind of a dick-head.


I'm not the best at making deals....
if anyone has ideas on how bad (or okay) the $2500 deal was that he offered I'd be interested.

[MicroBob]

holy crap this is a long thread.

thanks for the kind words everyone.


special thanks to awesomeali for taking the initiative and bringing me the magic of the zoo-sweat. you guys were zany as usual.
talking with that guy about his fish (that wasn't a trout) was REALLY freaking hilarious.

lori's comment at the end, "ok cat...put Bob back on the computer now" as well as someone else reminding me that cats aren't allowed to play at the WSOP were pretty funny.


Back to ali for a sec.
She wanted to rustle up some sweat and asked if she should go do it...I told her it was hardly sweat-worthy since I was dead last in chips with 7 players left (I was down to $270 or so at one point...it really WAS a miracle comeback).

When I won a couple hands and then actually took the chip-lead with 6 players left she said 'going to get some sweat...be right back' and I didn't have any time at all to tell her not to (didn't want to get nervous...but that was inevitable anyway).

Next thing I knew there were a zillion 'sup-bro's and 'go Bob!!'s at the table.

Some goofball typed:
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBB
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbb


Of course...our good friend JC kept claiming to be Bob which was kind of funny in itself.

So thanks to Ali for basically getting all that magical sweat even though I kinda didn't want her to (what the hell was i thinking?? like i was really going to pull off that win on my own??)


This thread is obviously reminiscent of one a few months ago.
For those who don't know or remember...in Sept I won the Empire Sunday night tourney for $12.5k. Before that my previous largest tourney win was $215 or so. Anyway...it was a big deal and all the kind words in that one were similar to this thread.

Makes me feel all ooguhlie inside...so thanks zoo. It's very humbling and very nice.

Actually...I think the ooguhlie feeling comes from the post-win celebration. Tylenol is your friend.

[slickpoppa]

Okay, I'll be the first one to say it. I am pissed that you won you fvcking fish. I hope you bust out on the first day in Vegas.



Just kidding. Congrats and good luck

[AwesomeAli]

No thanks necessary Bob, I am just glad I was there to see you win the seat and I am now glad that I rustled up some zoo sweat for you as it would be a shame for others not to see you win it /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I was in two minds at the time whether to post about it, but you didnt say "NO!" when I mentioned I was off to get some sweat. I am now glad that I did /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Good luck in Vegas, we expect a lengthy trip report when you return (I know I am gonna regret saying that /images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Ali

[MicroBob]

thanks. i needed that.

[sfwusc]

Congrats Bob

SFWUSC

[M.B.E.]

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When I offered to give him the seat for $3500 I thought it was a reasonable deal still...and might have been willing to settle at $3000. I'm glad I didn't obviously.
I think I had around 3k in chips to his 10k at the time.
I didn't think $2500 was a very good deal.
Remember...this is a package worth $11k+ ($10k seat...$1k cash...PLUS the free hotel stay for wearing their crap).
So I really did think $3500 was reasonable considering there really was an actual chance I could come back (obviously).

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There were 13,500 chips in play (1,500 x 9), and you had about 23% of them. Meaning the probability of your winning was 23%. If you disregard the value of the hotel, then the prize differential between first and second was $10,840 (since second gets $160).

Take 23% of $10,840 and you get $2,493.

We can put a value on the hotel accommodations at perhaps $1,500 -- that's probably a bit generous but let's use it anyway. Then the differential between first and second is $12,340 of which your equity share was $2,838.

(However, it's problematic to set the value of the WSOP seat at $10K. Suppose it were a regular MTT tournament with first prize $10K in cash. If you won, would you use the money to buy in to the WSOP main event? If not, it means you are setting the value of a WSOP seat at something less than $10K. If both players negotiating the deal would set the value of a seat at less than $10K, that should -- theoretically -- be factored into the deal.)

On balance, the $2500 he offered at that time might have been a tad low but it was not terribly unfair.

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I had used most of my time already on a couple of other hands (I think the time-clock carries over from the first round actually) so I really didn't have time to fully analyze it and figure out what the hell I was trying to do with my hand and settle down my nerves and think about the deal all at the same time.

And I wasn't particularly interested in sitting-out either to discuss it and just letting the blinds and antes rise.

Plus...if the sit-out takes place at the wrong-time and then we resume play at the wrong-time it could really work to my disadvantage if I have to play from the BB twice in a row.

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I agree completely. Lots of people have suggested to Stars that they install a "check-to-pause" box at final tables of tournaments. If everyone unanimously wants to stop play (to discuss a deal, to take a bathroom break, or whatever), then they could do it without having to sit out and wait for support to arrive. The last time I emailed about this, as I recall, they said they had decided against doing this, but might reconsider.

Also I've emailed them suggesting that in any shootout-format tournament, the time bank should be reset in each round. It's particularly necessary in the heads-up shootouts like the World Cup of Poker qualifiers.

[MicroBob]

nice analysis.

When I offered $3500 I thought he might come back at me with a counter-offer of $3000 and THEN I might have taken it.


Is your idea about the 'difference' in the prize correct??

I think the way to look at it is that I had already locked-in $160 for 2nd place...he's offering me $2500.

So I'm really only getting $2340 more than I was guaranteed to get anyway.


He initially had that idea of 'winner gives the loser $1k' when I had him out-chipped almost 2:1 I believe.
Isn't this obviously a bad deal?

I'm in the lead here....if we were even in chips and THEN decide that whover loses gives the winner $1000 then that would be fair.

After he tried to offer the $1000 deal I was automatically suspicious of any future offers he might throw out there.
The $2500 for an $11k+ package seemed low to me.

I also considered that I didn't think he was that great a heads-up player (although I'm not exactly god's gift of heads-up). I still thought I had a chance.


but mostly I was just rattled because things were going pretty fast, I was short on my time-clock, and my nerves were through the roof.

It was pretty damn hard to think straight about everything going on at once.

[M.B.E.]

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Is your idea about the 'difference' in the prize correct??

I think the way to look at it is that I had already locked-in $160 for 2nd place...he's offering me $2500.

So I'm really only getting $2340 more than I was guaranteed to get anyway.

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No, I think he was offering to make a side payment to you of $2500, in addition to the $160 that you would automatically receive for finishing second.

But obviously it's no good to leave something like that ambiguous -- another example of why it's so awkward to have to negotiate a deal while the tournament is still being dealt.

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He initially had that idea of 'winner gives the loser $1k' when I had him out-chipped almost 2:1 I believe.
Isn't this obviously a bad deal?

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Yes. Saves like that aren't fair unless the stacks are approximately equal.

[MicroBob]

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No, I think he was offering to make a side payment to you of $2500, in addition to the $160 that you would automatically receive for finishing second.

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oh yeah. you're right.

[Nelson]

Well, Bob congratulations to you. I wasn't planning to write a congratulatory note but as I was on my way out for a BBQ with my wonderful wife, I mentioned in passing that a poster, one of the good guys from 2+2 had just won an entry into the WSOP. I’ve read too many of your posts over the last year, and was genuinely happy for you. She said "What do you mean a "good guy" – it’s the Internet”.

I said, Jesus, it's MICROBOB, he's not a child molester. She said I could never be sure. I knew that even though I know that is not true, I couldn’t really prove it without spending too much time and effort. So frustrating...anyway Bob, good luck in Vegas!

[MicroBob]

mmmmmmm............children.....beautiful children..............so young............so innocent..............so tasty........so......(ahem) (*cough).......sorry, what were you saying? /images/graemlins/smile.gif


Thanks for the kind words.

[sfwusc]

Location: All in with 33....

Love it.

Congrats again

[IggyWH]

Damn... I go away to casino whore for a little while and I miss all the poker action.

Congrats Bob... when I win the Zoo raffle (if it ever happens) you owe me a brew /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jim Kuhn]

lol - kids are really great (if they are cooked just right).

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
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[Sponger15SB]

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mmmmmmm............children.....beautiful children..............so young............so innocent..............so tasty........so......(ahem) (*cough).......sorry, what were you saying? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I'll sell you the rights to my party screen name "NAMBLAgmbla" for $50.... yeah...that makes sense...

Anyways congrats Micro, you da man!

[RollaJ]

Just saw the news...... NH Bob........
First PPM, now this.......... you seem to be becoming a tournament circuit pro on the cheap /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[dogsballs]

Bob,

I've dealt a couple of times at the end of these.

If you can get your chip count in real $, then you've done great. Assuming between 2k-7k chip count in front of me, I'd take 500 less to give my opp the seat. So if I have 2.5k chips, i'll let him win for $2k. At least that's my rule of thumb.

Asfor the 1k for 2nd, ideally I'd like to make that deal when I'm chipleader and its 3 or 4-handed. (hoping the smaller stacks play out against each other, so I can accumulate more easily.). Whether they fall for that is a different story.