Knowing your...{pause}...players

[Ryno]

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (4 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (4 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Results:

SB has 2h Kh (two pair, kings and tens).
UTG has Kd Td (full house, tens full of kings).
Outcome: UTG wins 8 BB. </font>

[cookie]

I dont know why you are posting result, but besides that I think you played this hand awfully wrong..

[RunDownHouse]

I would also like to know why this hand was posted.

[fyodor]

Why not fold preflop and save 2 small bets?

[Bill Smith]

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Why not fold preflop and save 2 small bets?

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[stir]

I gotta say I love this response.

[NLSoldier]

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[kurosh]

I think the point of the post is that based off how much time each player took to act, he picked up that they had a big hand.

[stir]

If your saying that hero should check the flop because UTG paused a long time before checking (or auto checked), I couldn't disagree more.

[kurosh]

I'm not saying I agree with him. I'm saying I think that was the point of his post, that he picked up a tell.

[Ryno]

I met you at dinner at the Mirage diner a few months back, correct? If so, how's it going?

As for your "comment" /images/graemlins/smile.gif, I felt the same way as the hand unfolded. It was the most radical deviation I've ever made due to a read based solely on action-pauses. But UTG was playing something like 60% of hands, and was super-consistent:

check-call = pair or draw
check-fold = missed
pause until timer comes on, then check = will checkraise, and has at least 2 pair.

He did it on the flop, and then he waited even longer on the turn.

[NLSoldier]

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As for your "comment" /images/graemlins/smile.gif, I felt the same way as the hand unfolded. It was the most radical deviation I've ever made due to a read based solely on action-pauses. But UTG was playing something like 60% of hands, and was super-consistent:

check-call = pair or draw
check-fold = missed
pause until timer comes on, then check = will checkraise, and has at least 2 pair.

He did it on the flop, and then he waited even longer on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, that is an impressive read for online.

[ QUOTE ]
I met you at dinner at the Mirage diner a few months back, correct? If so, how's it going?

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Umm, yeah I think so, lol. If it was with Tommy and Clark and Andyfox, etc then yes. I'm doing great. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ryno]

Yup, that was the one. I was the tall guy. I believe The Dude was there too.

[og5]

I had something similiar happen today except it was a false tell. BB is a passive player so his cap had me worried. I flop a monster two pair and after every raise I put in BB runs the clock down to about 10 seconds before raising. I have not seen him do this before and was thinking WTF? Did he flop a set and is pausing every time to induce bets? I wish I capped this idiot /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 2s As (one pair, aces).
Button doesn't show.
Hero has Ad Jc (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 18 BB. </font>

[rory]

Beautiful.