Beatles vs. Led Zeppelin

[tbach24]

I really love the Beatles, but haven't been exposed to LZ enough. So temporarily I will go with the Beatles

[Justin A]

It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability.

[JoshuaD]

Zepplin's a glorified hair band. Beatles are classic. Easy choice.

[Jonny]

I like em both, but I had to go with zeppelin.

[anisotropy]

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It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability.

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Other than Bonzo clearly being better on the drums than Ringo, I don't see how any Zeppelin member is better than any Beatle member in musical ability.

George > Jimmy (guitar)
Paul > John Paul (bass)
John > Robert (vocals)

Don't even get started on songwriting ability. This one should be a slam dunk for the Beatles.

[kerssens]

Can't remember where I heard this but someone told a story about when the Beatles met Muhammad Ali. They talked for awhile and after they left Ali turned to the interviewer (Cosell??) and asked.."who were those fags?"

[istewart]

My two favorite bands. The Beatles in a walk, however.

But to the guy above, saying Harrison is a better guitarist than Page is ludicrous.

[Blarg]

Sounds a little apocryphal.

As to the songwriting, I'd have to agree that Zeppelin isn't anywhere near as good as the Beatles. Page's guitar is probably one of the more influential things in modern music, though.

[jesusarenque]

The Rolling Stones>The Beatles>Zep

Easy

[Justin A]

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It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability.

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Other than Bonzo clearly being better on the drums than Ringo, I don't see how any Zeppelin member is better than any Beatle member in musical ability.

George > Jimmy (guitar)
Paul > John Paul (bass)
John > Robert (vocals)

Don't even get started on songwriting ability. This one should be a slam dunk for the Beatles.

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You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist, and Jimmy was one of the greatest. John Paul Jones was a much better bassist and pianist than McCartney(sp?). Robert Plant was a more talented vocalist by far. You might actually have somewhat of an argument if you include the small period where Eric Clapton played with the Beatles.

The Beatles do have the edge in songwriting.

[augie00]

Beatles and it's not even close. What kind of a poll is this? Christ.

[tbach24]

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Beatles and it's not even close. What kind of a poll is this? Christ.

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It's the type where you either click the button next to one of the contestants or the other. No wonder your roomate is getting to play strip mario kart with hot girls while you have to use your sex chair /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Justin A]

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Beatles and it's not even close. What kind of a poll is this? Christ.

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An OPINION poll.

[istewart]

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It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability.

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Other than Bonzo clearly being better on the drums than Ringo, I don't see how any Zeppelin member is better than any Beatle member in musical ability.

George > Jimmy (guitar)
Paul > John Paul (bass)
John > Robert (vocals)

Don't even get started on songwriting ability. This one should be a slam dunk for the Beatles.

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You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist, and Jimmy was one of the greatest. John Paul Jones was a much better bassist and pianist than McCartney(sp?). Robert Plant was a more talented vocalist by far. You might actually have somewhat of an argument if you include the small period where Eric Clapton played with the Beatles.

The Beatles do have the edge in songwriting.

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John Paul Jones was not a better bassist than McCartney. Not even close. McCartney was a much, much better musician in general as well.

Plant vs. Lennon is close but that's JMO. They aren't really comparable as the music is so different.

[miajag81]

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Zepplin's a glorified hair band.

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wtf?

[istewart]

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Zepplin's a glorified hair band.

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wtf?

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Indeed... WTF

[Justin A]

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John Paul Jones was not a better bassist than McCartney. Not even close. McCartney was a much, much better musician in general as well.

Plant vs. Lennon is close but that's JMO. They aren't really comparable as the music is so different.

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I can agree with you about JPJ vs. McCartney being close. Plant vs. Lennon is close simply because Lennon has a more enjoyable voice IMO. However, when it comes to vocal range and such, Plant is more talented.

[zephed56]

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Zepplin's a glorified hair band. Beatles are classic. Easy choice.

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[istewart]

I love zephead.

[augie00]

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Beatles and it's not even close. What kind of a poll is this? Christ.

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An OPINION poll.

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How can it be an opinion poll if there is one correct answer? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Soul Daddy]

This poll isn't fair to Zeppelin. No one can measure up to The Beatles, they're the prototype.

[Dead]

I doubt you've been exposed to the Beatles enough either.

Beatles are more pop, and LZ is classic rock. I like them both.

[swede123]

I like Zep as much as the next guy, but come on now. Beatles is THE band by which all others are measured.

It's kinda like comparing whomever to Michael Jordan/Wayne Gretzky. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but in the end there answer is still the same.

Swede

[purnell]

Beatles. Not close. I'll let others elaborate.

[dibbs]

I'll probably be the only one in here that says zep. They are incredibly different styles of music though.

[gorie]

i've heard of led zeppelin, but who are the beatles?

[tbach24]

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This poll isn't fair to Zeppelin. No one can measure up to The Beatles, they're the prototype.

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TBT, this is actually the best band ever final. I think that this title gave it more hype though.

[Soul Daddy]

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This poll isn't fair to Zeppelin. No one can measure up to The Beatles, they're the prototype.

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TBT, this is actually the best band ever final. I think that this title gave it more hype though.

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Ah, well done. I have avoided those threads and yet you duped me in for the finale.

[thatpfunk]

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It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability.

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I think I actually like LZ more and I know listen to them more, but...

The Beatles influence + the amazing range of music they created gives it to them.

[tbach24]

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I doubt you've been exposed to the Beatles enough either.

Beatles are more pop, and LZ is classic rock. I like them both.

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I'm listening to One as we speak /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Phoenix1010]

This is Zeppelin all the way... I've never understood this love affair with the Beatles. They made some great pop songs, had two great song writers, but calling them the prototype is pretty ridiculous.

[Soul Daddy]

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They made some great pop songs, had two great song writers, but calling them the prototype is pretty ridiculous.

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No, it's not. Have you actually listened to them, beyond the "yeah yeah yeah" songs? Not being smart, okay maybe a little, it's just hard for me to believe that anyone who has could think they just "made some great pop songs." They introduced a myriad of musical styles to the biggest audience ever, making the success of bands like Zeppelin possible.

[CardSharpCook]

Zeppelin. And it not even close.

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[tpir90036]

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It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin.

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Me too... I left out the part about musical ability because I don't feel like arguing that point between these two groups.

[JoshuaD]

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Zepplin's a glorified hair band.

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wtf?

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I like they're music, but they were a precursor to all the 80's hairbands.

[JoshuaD]

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This is Zeppelin all the way... I've never understood this love affair with the Beatles. They made some great pop songs, had two great song writers, but calling them the prototype is pretty ridiculous.

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Give all they're albums a listen, they are way more than "pop".

[Soul Daddy]

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I like they're music, but they were a precursor to all the 80's hairbands.

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That's not their fault. Don't let Winger ruin LZ's legacy in your mind.

[miajag81]

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Zepplin's a glorified hair band.

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wtf?

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I like they're music, but they were a precursor to all the 80's hairbands.

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The Beatles were a precursor to the Monkees. What's your point?

[7ontheline]

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The Rolling Stones>The Beatles>Zep

Easy

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I like both the Beatles and Zeppelin. I think I would take the Beatles by a hair. And the above quote is one of the most ignorant things I have ever read in all of OOT. ALL OF OOT, I SAY!

[augie00]

This whole thread is dumb. How can you even compare The Beatles to Led Zeppelin? The Beatles are responsible for a lot of the music that we listen to today. Anyone who answers Zeppelin simply doesn't know enough about The Beatles.

edit: that is assuming of course, that this thread is "which is the better band" rather than "which is your favorite band"

[Cyrus]

No one who wasn't a musician already (or deeply knowledgeable of music) could truly hear what the damn dork was playing on the bass yet we could be arguing about who's the best bass player until morning!

Face it, all those Best (Instrument player) polls are nothing but about who's the most popular or most revered at the time. The best polls are those among the musicians themselves. They know what they are talking about.

BTW, here's my deal:

Guitarist: Page over Harrison (come on!)
Guitarist: Lennon - by default!
Bassist: Macca over Jones, and it's not even close.
Drummer: I don't mind having Bozo over Starr, but let it be known that Mr Starkey was a vastly underrated drummer! (Check him out, for instance, in "I Saw Her Standing There" which is restrained yet pure, pure testosterone drumming.)

Overall output in music: Fab over Zep, and it's not even close.

[jokerthief]

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You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist

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Are YOU kidding. George Harrison REVOLUTIONIZED popular music with his progressions. Typical Beatles chord progression would go something like: C, Cmaj7, C7, F, D, G, Am, G#dim7, Am7. That is why the Beatles beacame a huge sensation, their music was something the public had never heard before. There is no band since them that has changed music as significantly. The Beatles broke the paradigm for bands like Zeppelin.

BTW, anyone who says that Page is one of the greatest guitarists of all time either--1. can't play guitar, or 2. sucks at guitar.

[Phoenix1010]

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This whole thread is dumb. How can you even compare The Beatles to Led Zeppelin? The Beatles are responsible for a lot of the music that we listen to today. Anyone who answers Zeppelin simply doesn't know enough about The Beatles.

edit: that is assuming of course, that this thread is "which is the better band" rather than "which is your favorite band"

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Bah. This thread is not about which band is more influential. You win that just by being older. It's about who is better. Stick to the question.

[maldini]

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This whole thread is dumb. How can you even compare The Beatles to Led Zeppelin? The Beatles are responsible for a lot of the music that we listen to today. Anyone who answers Zeppelin simply doesn't know enough about The Beatles.

edit: that is assuming of course, that this thread is "which is the better band" rather than "which is your favorite band"

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this from a college kid, hilarious.

led zepplin has been much more influential. not that that matters at all. name the band(s) that sounded like LZ before LZ. cant do it? all heavy metal/hair bands after sound something like LZ.

beatles are solid. i give them that. but, the rolling stones are more comparable (and better music). the beatles are pop. LZ are the godfathers to everything from motley crue to coldplay. beatles are godfathers to pop rock.

nuf said

[Jeff W]

Led Zeppelin is sorely outclassed--and I like Led Zeppelin.

[OrangeCat]

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You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist, and Jimmy was one of the greatest. John Paul Jones was a much better bassist and pianist than McCartney(sp?). Robert Plant was a more talented vocalist by far. You might actually have somewhat of an argument if you include the small period where Eric Clapton played with the Beatles.

[/ QUOTE ]Clapton only played on one Beatles song "While My Guitar Gently Weaps." Page played lots of sloppy notes in his solos but George had taste and style. George never really got his due because he was in a band with the two the the greatest of that era. Page was great at coming up with heavy riffs that made the best Zep songs. I love 'em both but to call Georg run of the mill is not right.

[YourFoxyGrandma]

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the beatles are pop.

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You obviously haven't heard about half of their music.

[ChoicestHops]

Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands. As good as the Beatles were and the standard that they set for music, I still gotta go with Zeppelin.

[zephed56]

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You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist

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Are YOU kidding. George Harrison REVOLUTIONIZED popular music with his progressions. Typical Beatles chord progression would go something like: C, Cmaj7, C7, F, D, G, Am, G#dim7, Am7. That is why the Beatles beacame a huge sensation, their music was something the public had never heard before. There is no band since them that has changed music as significantly. The Beatles broke the paradigm for bands like Zeppelin.

BTW, anyone who says that Page is one of the greatest guitarists of all time either--1. can't play guitar, or 2. sucks at guitar.

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He is definitely NOT the best in terms of technical ability, I don't think anyone is implying that. He is a great rock n roll composer.

Technical ability doesn't really mean much anyways (Yngwie, for example), as long as you are competent. He is certainly more than competent.

[cursedkings]

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Zepplin's a glorified hair band. Beatles are classic. Easy choice.

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Well this is my frist post here.. but I just gotta say, you are a clown. Led Zeppelin owns you. The Beatles are good and all, but Led Zeppelin is just flat out amazing.

[zephed56]

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It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability.

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Other than Bonzo clearly being better on the drums than Ringo, I don't see how any Zeppelin member is better than any Beatle member in musical ability.

George > Jimmy (guitar)
Paul > John Paul (bass)
John > Robert (vocals)

Don't even get started on songwriting ability. This one should be a slam dunk for the Beatles.

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You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist, and Jimmy was one of the greatest. John Paul Jones was a much better bassist and pianist than McCartney(sp?). Robert Plant was a more talented vocalist by far. You might actually have somewhat of an argument if you include the small period where Eric Clapton played with the Beatles.

The Beatles do have the edge in songwriting.

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John Paul Jones was not a better bassist than McCartney. Not even close. McCartney was a much, much better musician in general as well.

Plant vs. Lennon is close but that's JMO. They aren't really comparable as the music is so different.

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Evidence in favor of JPJ:
-Ramble On
-Lemon Song (great blues playing)
-Good Times, Bad Times
-Immigrant Song
-Black Dog (He wrote the riff)
-The Song Remains the Same
-Achilles Last Stand

I will say that Lennon/McCartney wrote better lyrics. I don't think it's as important as the musical songwriting.

[JackWilson]

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the beatles are pop.

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You obviously haven't heard about half of their music.

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The other half was about drugs.

But then, those were some of the best songs ever.

[zephed56]

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No one who wasn't a musician already (or deeply knowledgeable of music) could truly hear what the damn dork was playing on the bass yet we could be arguing about who's the best bass player until morning!

Face it, all those Best (Instrument player) polls are nothing but about who's the most popular or most revered at the time. The best polls are those among the musicians themselves. They know what they are talking about.

BTW, here's my deal:

Guitarist: Page over Harrison (come on!)
Guitarist: Lennon - by default!
Bassist: Macca over Jones, and it's not even close.
Drummer: I don't mind having Bozo over Starr, but let it be known that Mr Starkey was a vastly underrated drummer! (Check him out, for instance, in "I Saw Her Standing There" which is restrained yet pure, pure testosterone drumming.)

Overall output in music: Fab over Zep, and it's not even close.

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This is not even close. Bonzo. Listen to When the Levee Breaks or In My Time of Dying.

[Rushmore]

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But to the guy above, saying Harrison is a better guitarist than Page is ludicrous.

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[The Dude]

Definately Led Zepplin.

[Cyrus]

This is not even close. Bonzo.

And what did I say different?

But too many people dismiss Starr's drumming.

Listen to "When the Levee Breaks".

A long time ago, I taped the old blues version with Memphis Minnie first and right as the last whining guitar chord is struck, I edited in the Zep number with Bonham's thunder intro. DJ was floored.

[BottlesOf]

Zep, not close

[augie00]

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this from a college kid, hilarious

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What? What does that have to do with anything? Do a search sometime for "The Beatles Memorabilia Price Guide." My dad wrote those; all three. And he's working on the fourth right now.

Just because I'm in college doesn't mean I don't know anything about music.

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led zepplin has been much more influential. not that that matters at all. name the band(s) that sounded like LZ before LZ. cant do it? all heavy metal/hair bands after sound something like LZ.

beatles are solid. i give them that. but, the rolling stones are more comparable (and better music). the beatles are pop. LZ are the godfathers to everything from motley crue to coldplay. beatles are godfathers to pop rock.


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I'm sorry, but in the words of Colonel Potter, "HORSE HOCKEY!!" I would give you a triple bogey, but that rating system is reserved soley for joke posts. Although this might be considered a joke.

[asofel]

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BTW, anyone who says that Page is one of the greatest guitarists of all time either--1. can't play guitar, or 2. sucks at guitar.

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100 best (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/5937559?rnd=1115393195949&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040)

the list is obviously flawed (i love nirvana, but kurt at 12??) but saying that Page isn't ONE of the best is flat out idiocy. He's not the best, he played sloppy at times, but give the guy the credit he's due.

[PokerNoob]

Coldplay owes a helluva lot more to the Beatles than to Zep. Zep is derivative blues, with a splash of JRR Tolkien and theatrics. Yes, it did spawn a genre. The Beatles went from bubblegum pop idols to revolutionizing music. Its as if the Backstreet Boys became... well there is nothing that really revolutionizes music any more that I can think of. Songwriting, instrumentation and recording technique of pop music all greatly changed with the Rubber Soul - Sgt Pepper's era.

[Oski]

The Beatles were not the same once Clarence left the band.

Beatles with Clarence were the best band in history;

Without Clarence, the Beatles were the second best band in history.

[wayabvpar]

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The Beatles were not the same once Clarence left the band.

Beatles with Clarence were the best band in history;

Without Clarence, the Beatles were the second best band in history.

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She's got a ticket to ride and the bitch don't care!

[zephed56]

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This is not even close. Bonzo.

And what did I say different?

But too many people dismiss Starr's drumming.

Listen to "When the Levee Breaks".

A long time ago, I taped the old blues version with Memphis Minnie first and right as the last whining guitar chord is struck, I edited in the Zep number with Bonham's thunder intro. DJ was floored.

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Eh, I thought you were saying Ringo was better, my bad.

[jokerthief]

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BTW, anyone who says that Page is one of the greatest guitarists of all time either--1. can't play guitar, or 2. sucks at guitar.

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100 best (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/5937559?rnd=1115393195949&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040)

the list is obviously flawed (i love nirvana, but kurt at 12??) but saying that Page isn't ONE of the best is flat out idiocy. He's not the best, he played sloppy at times, but give the guy the credit he's due.

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So, which one are you--a non guitarist, or a bad guitarist?

[istewart]

There's a reason Led Zeppelin is the best hard rock band ever. That reason is Jimmy Page. The fact that he doesn't play like Steve Vai is irrelevant; the sound is better, the riffs are better.

He's also cooler.